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Re: Scotland on Sunday: Secret talks on London bullet train

by Mister Niceguy <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 3, 2008 at 08:22 PM

B <blimpie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> On Jun 2, 9:14 pm, Mister Niceguy <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Cats <ramwa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>> innews:90365d73-e34f-414d-8782-23129bdf6cec@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
> 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:
>>
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>> > On Jun 1, 9:42 pm, The Voice of EDI <thevoiceof...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> > wrote:
>> >> A MULTI-billion-pound plan to build a high-speed train link
>> >> between Scotland and London is back on track following secret
>> >> talks between the UK and Scottish Governments.
>>
>> >>http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/latestnews/-Secret-talks-on-
>> Londo
>> >> n.41
>> > 39887.jp
>>
>> >> or
>>
>> >>http://tinyurl.com/5d2x88
>>
>> >> I noticed that the print edition of the same paper had a full page
>> >> ad from NXEC extolling the benefits of train travel over domestic
>> >> air travel.
>>
>> > This looks like pie-in-the-sky to me.  The actual route will be
>> > highly 
> 
>> > contentious, both in terms of which cities want to be connected and
>> > where people don't want it to go. The public enquiry would never
>> > end. There is also the issue of how much Scotland would have to pay
>> > for, given (according to the article) that England would be
>> > unwilling to pay north of whatever the north-most major city on the
>> > new line would be since it would be track not of obvious direct
>> > benefit to England. 
>>
>> Alas your picture of doom and gloom is probably a fair predictor of
>> major trans****t improvements in the UK, Cats.  Eurotunnel was an
>> obvious 
> 
>> choice of route but has been a financial disaster.  Other major
>> developments in my lifetime have all been in London.  (Can you call
>> ECML 
> 
>> electrification a major development?)
>>
>> A fast rail link that reduces journey time to 3 hours would be enough
>> to swing it away from air for most people.
> 
> When it comes to trans****t infrastructure the UK is a backward country
> without a shadow of a doubt IMO, too much red tape and 'consultants'
> TBH,

Public inquiries certainly take years to complete.  But that's the 
mentality in the UK.  When the French built their equivalent of the CTRL 
it was seen as a jobs boom to northern France.  By contrast, the people 
of Kent (of the angry from Tunbridge Wells variety)  didn't want our 
CTRL in their "back yard".
 




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Scotland on Sunday: Secret talks on London bullet train
The Voice of EDI <thev  2008-06-01 21:42:19 
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B <blimpie@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-01 13:58:03 
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The Voice of EDI <thev  2008-06-02 06:45:19 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-02 15:52:03 
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"Peter Masson"   2008-06-02 16:38:00 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-03 11:59:25 
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B <blimpie@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-03 12:43:40 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-04 10:42:42 
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B <blimpie@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-03 13:30:13 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=AEi=A9ard  2008-06-03 21:33:30 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 10:29:43 
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Mister Niceguy <me@[EM  2008-06-03 20:36:22 
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Charles Ellson <charle  2008-06-03 22:32:46 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 15:06:18 
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Sam Wilson <Sam.Wilson  2008-06-04 15:47:50 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 15:50:29 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-04 10:41:20 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 11:03:00 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 20:36:03 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-04 11:17:17 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 11:32:20 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-04 11:18:46 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 11:37:14 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-04 11:46:29 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-04 11:47:24 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 13:31:21 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-04 11:24:36 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-04 12:37:14 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 20:37:33 
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Chris Tolley <cjt.7@[  2008-06-04 20:44:26 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-04 05:12:14 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-04 05:14:20 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-04 13:11:06 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-04 13:39:55 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 13:50:58 
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Charles Ellson <charle  2008-06-04 23:42:12 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-04 14:15:17 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 23:00:56 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-04 14:16:13 
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Mister Niceguy <me@[EM  2008-06-04 15:38:10 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-04 15:18:45 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-02 17:48:51 
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"Peter Masson"   2008-06-02 18:03:19 
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Graeme Wall <Rail@[EMA  2008-06-02 19:09:28 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-03 11:10:17 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-03 19:26:42 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-03 13:21:07 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 10:28:13 
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Chris Tolley <cjt.7@[  2008-06-04 10:48:50 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 13:33:41 
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Chris Tolley <cjt.7@[  2008-06-04 15:02:55 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 16:06:17 
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Chris Tolley <cjt.7@[  2008-06-04 19:42:57 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 20:54:11 
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Chris Tolley <cjt.7@[  2008-06-04 20:51:10 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 21:53:42 
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Chris Tolley <cjt.7@[  2008-06-05 08:36:05 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-05 11:40:03 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 20:41:23 
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"Callum Johnstone&qu  2008-06-03 22:37:24 
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wensleydale@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-01 21:39:53 
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jon.faro@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-01 15:42:48 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-02 07:39:56 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-02 05:39:26 
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Mister Niceguy <me@[EM  2008-06-02 20:14:43 
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"tshanazt@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-02 06:25:37 
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allan tracy <thunderbi  2008-06-02 07:06:11 
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wensleydale@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-02 18:59:14 
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allan tracy <thunderbi  2008-06-02 07:12:17 
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Mister Niceguy <me@[EM  2008-06-02 20:04:40 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-02 15:36:53 
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John B <spam@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-02 08:14:34 
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wensleydale@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-02 19:07:46 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-02 16:34:52 
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B <blimpie@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-02 12:29:32 
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B <blimpie@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-02 13:26:58 
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Mister Niceguy <me@[EM  2008-06-03 20:22:02 
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The Real Doctor <ian.g  2008-06-03 04:03:40 
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ibilola1@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-03 04:10:49 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-03 12:19:13 
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GKirk <grahamkirk1983@  2008-06-03 04:48:31 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-03 13:00:33 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-03 06:53:00 
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Roland Perry <roland@[  2008-06-03 14:55:11 
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GKirk <grahamkirk1983@  2008-06-03 07:21:43 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 10:33:05 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-03 10:06:09 
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Jim Mason <jim.mason@[  2008-06-04 15:31:12 
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