On Jun 22, 12:30 am, Mike <travel.lo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 21 Jun, 23:23, HIDDELS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jun 21, 11:08 pm, Mike <travel.lo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On 21 Jun, 15:15, Piper One <fergusabra...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Jun 21, 11:29 am, Mike <travel.lo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On Jun 21, 8:52 am, Piper One <fergusabra...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > On Jun 21, 12:37 am, Mike <travel.lo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > On Jun 20, 11:54 pm, Mike <travel.lo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > Provisional May figs out today.
> > > > > > > > Down 9%
!!http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=3D80&paget=
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> > > > > > > > Mike
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> > > > > > > Quick check on International figs.
> > > > > > > Charter flights to/from Seville make up a high percentage of
l=
osses.
> > > > > > > Also reduced Charter numbers as tour ops cut based aircraft.
> > > > > > > Schedule losses Newark, Prague, Hamilton, Keflavik,
Vancouver,=
Ottawa
> > > > > > > (All above 1000 paxs)
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> > > > > > > Gains
> > > > > > > Paris, Dubai, Halifax, Bologna, West Knock, Faro, Puerta
Plata=
,
> > > > > > > Toronto, Tenerife. (All above 1000 paxs)
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> > > > > > > Again good increase to Dubai. May is actually the quietest
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th to
> > > > > > > Dubai.
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> > > > > > > Mike
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> > > > > > After netting off football effects, Seville last year, Rangers
t=
his
> > > > > > year, the total decline is still around 54000. For me, the
inter=
sting
> > > > > > part is the decline in the London market by approx 26500
within =
a
> > > > > > domestic decline of around 32000. International has actually
hel=
d up a
> > > > > > bit better, although Globespan's cut backs to Hamilton, Boston
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nd
> > > > > > Prague have played a big part in this. No great surprise with
> > > > > > Continental & US Airways given the capacity cut backs.
>
> > > > > > Sad to note though, is that of the top 10 Regional Air****ts,
GLA=
is
> > > > > > the only one showing decline of >1.0%, and only one of two
showi=
ng
> > > > > > decline at all, the other being Manchester. Ah well, maybe
some =
day
> > > > > > things might change and GLA perform more like the National
avera=
ge,
> > > > > > which I'm sure would keep most people happy.
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> > > > > I don't think there were that many Rangers fans flying to
Manchest=
er.
> > > > > With only 16500 to/from Seville on 2007 (8250 paxs) I guess some
f=
ans
> > > > > came via LHR etc.
> > > > > Scheduled International went up 10849.
> > > > > Charters numbers went down 51192
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> > > > > Stansted drop was 3.2%
> > > > > Newcasle just outside the top ten dropped 10.2%. I'll guess this
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s
> > > > > due to reduction in based charters.
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> > > > > Check out the figures for May 2003, page 15, and the vast
numbers =
of
> > > > > Celtic fans who went out to Seville and Jerez.
> > > > >
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/air****t_data/200305/Table_12_1_Intl_=
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> > > > > Mike- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > What I was referring to was Rangers v Fiorentina traffic of around
> > > > 2200 offsetting the loss of Seville traffic, giving a net drop due
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o
> > > > football of around 14.7k. While statistically im****tant, far more
> > > > concerning to me was the drop of 26.6 on London figures (no AB, 1
le=
ss
> > > > LTN per day), albeit with a slight rise in LCY. Even LGW/LHR
combine=
d
> > > > managed to drop around 9k, which says that the missing traffic did
n=
ot
> > > > simply switch to another route.
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> > > > Stansted, being a London air****t, I didn't look at, but I suspect
th=
ey
> > > > also had a major effect from the AB cutbacks, as they lost
European
> > > > frequencies as well as the 3 domestic routes. Newcastle, as you
> > > > suggest, has also suffered from the Charter market woes, while I
don=
't
> > > > think EZY have increased their base this Summer.
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> > > > Of course things are sluggish this year, but what I would at least
> > > > like to see is GLA performing much more closely to its immediate
pee=
r
> > > > group and attracting a share of the growth that is out there. Yes,
> > > > Clive has prepared us all for negatives this year, but I hope
there
> > > > aren't any bonuses being paid at BAA GLA this year, given the
woeful=
> > > > performance.
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> > > > Just maybe, there is genuinely a big announcement to go with the
> > > > Skyhub opening in October. PLEEEEEEEEEEASE.
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> > > Forgot Rangers played Fiorentina in May.
> > > I'll be honest Domestic traffic doesn't have a big interest to me,
> > > particularly London so didn't really look at those figures.
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> > > I'd personally prefer to see increases in International destinations
> > > as i'm more likely to use these services.
>
> > > Like yourself and Clive I was hoping to see some announcements for
the=
> > > opening of Skyhub. However with the way oil prices, the economy and
> > > BAA is going I can't see too many positive announcements. I can only
> > > see double Emirates as a possibility. (Which would be fantastic)
>
> > > I still see people taking their annual holiday abroad. I expect
there
> > > will be reductions in people taking second and third breaks. I know
I
> > > have personally cut back on last minute breaks abroad due to
increased=
> > > costs. With the Euro at a high point I=92d expect to see reductions
to=
> > > Spanish destinations. Turkey will have a big increase this summer.
> > > Anyway I expect we'll see negative figures for a while although I
> > > expect they'll hold up well in July/August. Certainly no where near
> > > -9%.
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> > > Mike
>
> > I think it'll be a while before we see Emirates expanding to be
> > honest.I have noticed they have been cutting back on some routes
> > although they have been expanding in some areas as well it has to be
> > said. It says a lot about the industry when we see the likes of them
> > being careful in what they're doing.
> > From what I have been reading and hearing from back home the economy
> > is on a bit of a downturn and one of the first thing that usually hits
> > is people spending any spare cash if they have any that is on
> > travelling. The credit squeeze will also hit bigtime as well,so I
> > don't see any big change in GLA's fortunes for the time being.
> > Consolidating on what GLA has got for now will have to do until people
> > start feeling flush again.
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> Crawford it's been pissing down all day. One of the last things people
> will cut back on is their two weeks in the sun.
>
> Mike
It was pissing down here for two days if it makes you feel any better
Mike. :-))
I agree with the two weeks holiday Mike but over recent years people
have been taking more than one main holiday. Very common as you know
yourself that couples or even families were taking extra extended
weekend European breaks and using Easter/October week breaks to visit
places further afield. I suspect the economical downturn is/will
having/have an adverse effect on those type of air travel related
hols.
Crawford
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