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Re: spins from coordinated flight

by "Todd W. Deckard" <twdeckard@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 27, 2007 at 11:10 AM

Stefan,

I am currently chanting the "ball centered = no spin" mantra.  However
I am very sympathetic to your explaination that its a difference in AoA.
In the end, that may be the purest way to explain the spin.

If this thread sustains I'll listen in and see what I can sift out.

Todd

"Stefan" <stefan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:4bb62$4773ba89

> While I agree that this is a correct and simple recipe and therefore
quite 
> useful in practice, I don't agree that it helps to *understand* the 
> situation, because *reason* for the spin is not the yaw rate. The reason

> for the spin is an asymmetric angle of attack, i.e. one wing is more 
> stalled than the other. Of course this situation can only occur if there

> is some yaw, which leads us to the recipe given above.
>
> Recipe: As there is always some yaw in a coordinated turn (otherwise it 
> wouldn't be coordinated), you can perfectly enter a spin from a 
> coordinated turn. Aerodynamic reason: The inner wing has a higher angle
of 
> attack than the outer, so it stalls first or, if both wings stall, it is

> more stalled. Asymmetric stall condition -> spin.
 




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spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 07:42:04 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 09:25:53 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Stefan <stefan@[EMAIL   2007-12-27 15:45:27 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 10:20:38 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Stefan <stefan@[EMAIL   2007-12-27 18:52:19 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Jim Macklin" &  2007-12-27 11:59:14 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Stefan <stefan@[EMAIL   2007-12-27 19:20:11 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Jim Macklin" &  2007-12-27 12:35:03 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 13:49:13 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 11:10:31 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 10:04:40 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Jose <teacherjh@[EMAIL  2007-12-27 16:13:36 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 10:22:22 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 11:28:19 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 11:26:51 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 10:45:55 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 12:10:54 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 11:14:58 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 12:25:43 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Jim Macklin" &  2007-12-27 11:28:40 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Jim Macklin" &  2007-12-27 11:52:58 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 09:56:44 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 11:15:37 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Kyle Boatright"  2007-12-27 11:21:15 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 10:31:52 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 12:07:54 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-28 00:44:21 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 11:38:09 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Jim Macklin" &  2007-12-27 11:40:53 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 10:27:33 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Angelo Campanella <a.c  2007-12-27 17:03:57 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Angelo Campanella <a.c  2007-12-27 17:04:11 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Jose <teacherjh@[EMAIL  2007-12-27 12:07:40 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 12:20:13 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Jose <teacherjh@[EMAIL  2007-12-27 17:35:24 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 12:45:08 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Jose <teacherjh@[EMAIL  2007-12-27 17:57:06 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Stefan <stefan@[EMAIL   2007-12-27 19:10:28 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 14:33:40 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Jose <teacherjh@[EMAIL  2007-12-27 17:52:53 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dudley Henriques <dhen  2007-12-27 18:08:47 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-28 07:58:58 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Neil Gould" &l  2007-12-27 12:21:43 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 10:53:00 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Todd W. Deckard&quo  2007-12-27 11:04:01 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
"Neil Gould" &l  2007-12-27 19:37:50 
Re: spins from coordinated flight
Dave S <Dastaten@[EMAI  2007-12-27 18:18:20 

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