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Re: Homebuilt hot-air air****ps

by Jim Logajan <JamesL@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 20, 2006 at 07:28 PM

john smith <jsmith@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Jim, thanks for the followup postings.
> I am courious as to how Dan plans to control ascent/descent?
> Is there going to be a ballonette inside the envelope?

Ballonette's aren't actually used to control buoyancy; they are used to 
allow for lifting gas expansion as an air****p rises. As an air****p rises 
the atmospheric pressure drops of course, so either the lifting gas has to

be vented (if the lifting gas container can't change volume), or the 
container has to expand in volume to maintain equal pressure with the 
atmosphere, or the container has to be strong enough to hold the large 
pressure differential. That last is needlessly difficult. So since most 
air****ps now use relatively expensive helium, venting is out of the 
question, so ballonettes are used. When using hot air, venting is a
simpler 
solution and not as costly.

Ascent and descent are almost certainly going to be controlled in the same

manner that hot air balloons use: by increasing the bouyancy by applying 
more hot air (or dropping ballast) to ascend and venting of hot air to 
descend (or allowing natural cooling to take its toll). Fortunately hot
air 
is much cheaper than helium.

If you are interested in more details, I suggest you review the paper they

presented at an AIAA forum:
http://www.personalblimp.com/misc/atio2003.pdf

Their patent, 6,793,180, can be examined at the U.S. patent office online:
http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html
 




 10 Posts in Topic:
Homebuilt hot-air airships
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2006-07-19 01:35:00 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2006-07-18 20:39:30 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2006-07-19 04:24:07 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
john smith <jsmith@[EM  2006-07-19 12:28:29 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2006-07-19 16:28:29 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2006-07-20 17:55:17 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
john smith <jsmith@[EM  2006-07-20 18:36:43 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2006-07-20 19:28:04 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
"Rich S." <c  2006-07-20 14:18:11 
Re: Homebuilt hot-air airships
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2006-07-21 17:49:32 

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