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Re: Venus Air****ps / by Brad Guth

by BradGuth <bradguth@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 9, 2008 at 10:26 PM

On Jun 9, 11:54 am, "Keith Willshaw" <keithnos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> "BradGuth" <bradg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
>
news:e8a0a002-1b68-40d2-a56b-29ff47264813@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>=
 Just for a little extra topic argument sake, on behalf of rigid
> > composite air****ps:
>
>  >http://www.deepoceanexpeditions.com/****ps_3_2.html
>  > =93The Deep Rover 1002 submersibles have been pressure tested to 1.25
>
> > times their maximum diving depth (1,250 meters or 4,100 feet) with a
> > designed safety factor of four times and a theoretical crush depth of
> > over 4,000 metres (13,120 feet).=94
>
> A trivial design problem compared with Venusian conditions.
> The pressure vessel on those submersibles would MELT
> on the Venusian surface while the sulphuric acid droplets
> suspended higher in the atmosphere make that a very unpleasant
> environment for acryllic plastics.
>
> At any altitude within a meaningful fraction of the Venusian
> atmosphere the temperatures are high enough to fry electronics
> without a powerful cooling system.. IRC the record for duration
> of any package landed on the surface is around 2 hours
>
> Keith

What a total wuss, and obviously dumbfounded to boot.  You say melt?

You've got to be kidding.  Is Venus suddenly into geothermally
roasting itself well above 811 K?

If not 811+ K, where's the big ass insurmountable problem?

Say again, what the nighttime seasonal temperature is at 25+km?

- Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth

David Grinspoon quotes: http://thinkexist.com/quotes/david_grinspoon/
=93We're ignorant of life in the universe. We only have one planet that
serves as an example and in science it's not good to derive
information from a sample size of one.=94
 




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LIBERATOR <jgchoixx@[E  2008-05-05 00:34:39 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-05-07 05:58:51 
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"Hagar" <hag  2008-05-05 07:25:17 
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BradGuth <bradguth@[EM  2008-05-05 14:56:01 
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