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Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion

by "Stuart & Kathryn Fields" <sfkf@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 3, 2008 at 04:39 PM

<Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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 Sep 3, 3:14 pm, idontwantanys...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Drew Dalgleish)
wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:12:15 -0700 (PDT), Dan_Thomas_nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Guess not. Now we can put a magneto on any old engine and go
> >flying! Considering that the magneto has a much higher failure rate
> >than the old battery point-and-condenser ignition, and therefore we
> >need two of them, I have no idea why, in this age of electronic
> >everything, the homebuilder market hasn't come up with a self-powered
> >electronic ignition module for conversions. It would look like a
> >magneto, and have the rotating magnet alternator to generate some
> >power, but wouldn't use the troublesome points or impulse couplings or
> >distributor and the alternator part would have many magnets, not just
> >one, so that the magneto dynamics that sometimes lead to drive failure
> >wouldn't be there. Dave Blanton found those dynamics in his
> >conversions and had to modify the mag drives to take it.
>
> > Dan
>
> http://www.emagair.com/Index.htm
>
> I have these on my lycoming and I think that it would be possible to
> machine some kind of mount to fit it to an auto engine.

         Well. There it is! I wonder when they'll get certification?
I'd like to try a pair on one of our 172s to see if fuel economy and
performance are better. Should be, with variable timing.
        The one drawback I can see: They use battery power, with a
built-in alternator in case the aircraft's electrics die. Without an
impulse coupleing, they wouldn't generate enough power for hand-
propping, so my old A-65 non-electric systemed Jodel is out of luck.
       Dan
Dan:  I've been flying a Lightspeed ignition on one side and a Slick mag
on 
the other on my Lycoming 0320 for several years.  The only problem that I 
have had is that with real low battery voltage, the timing can get wrong
and 
cause a kick back and damage the starter.  As I understand it the newer 
units have fixed this problem.  Impulse coupling?? You don't need it. 
This 
thing fires so much better than a magneto at any speed that mag checks, 
turning the mag off gets no rpm drop and turning the Lightspeed off gets 
about 100rpm drop.  The spark coming off the light speed fed plug looks
like 
something from science fiction.  Also I'm using automotive platinum plugs
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$4.50 each and the A/C equivalent would be  about 10X that.  A small 
isolated battery takes care of a backup for electrical system failures.  I

do not have one installed yet and it has been about 10 years now and have 
never needed the back up.
 




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A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"socal.penguin@[EMAI  2008-08-24 20:48:45 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Philippe <No.Spam@[EMA  2008-08-25 13:25:37 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-08-25 10:35:12 
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"socal.penguin@[EMAI  2008-08-25 20:28:37 
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"socal.penguin@[EMAI  2008-08-25 20:40:15 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
JohnO <johno1234@[EMAI  2008-08-25 21:06:32 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
stol <benford2@[EMAIL   2008-09-05 06:24:52 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Barnyard BOb <rooster@  2008-09-14 03:09:06 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Morgans" <j  2008-09-14 16:31:37 
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"Ramsey" <@[  2008-08-25 23:13:07 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2008-08-26 00:59:04 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
stol <benford2@[EMAIL   2008-08-26 06:32:50 
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"socal.penguin@[EMAI  2008-08-26 20:53:43 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Morgans" <j  2008-08-27 01:43:49 
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"socal.penguin@[EMAI  2008-08-26 21:07:46 
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Ron Wanttaja <ron.want  2008-08-26 23:14:37 
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Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-08-27 16:11:51 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-08-27 17:32:49 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Ron Wanttaja <ron.want  2008-08-27 19:06:39 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"socal.penguin@[EMAI  2008-08-26 21:43:52 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
stol <benford2@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 06:34:28 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 11:33:55 
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"Morgans" <j  2008-08-27 16:43:09 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Copperhead144 <JSteve1  2008-08-27 13:53:01 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-08-27 17:48:49 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Bill Daniels"   2008-08-27 19:15:04 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Morgans" <j  2008-08-28 11:34:08 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-08-28 07:47:34 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Morgans" <j  2008-08-28 18:05:24 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Ramsey" <@[  2008-08-31 09:42:54 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Ernest Christley <echr  2008-08-31 23:52:15 
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"Zebulon" <@  2008-08-31 23:44:43 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Charles Vincent <xlch5  2008-09-01 08:55:20 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Zebulon" <@  2008-09-01 09:26:05 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-09-03 07:17:07 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Zebulon" <@  2008-09-03 09:43:47 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Charles Vincent <xlch5  2008-09-03 12:03:25 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Morgans" <j  2008-09-03 17:58:50 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-09-03 21:20:57 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
cavelamb himself <cave  2008-09-04 01:10:06 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-09-04 07:14:31 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"socal.penguin@[EMAI  2008-08-27 19:01:02 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
flybynightkarmarepair <  2008-08-27 19:19:03 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-08-28 08:11:15 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Bill Daniels"   2008-08-28 08:56:38 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Morgans" <j  2008-08-28 18:18:08 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Barnyard BOb <rooster@  2008-09-05 05:49:51 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-08-28 17:26:48 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"socal.penguin@[EMAI  2008-08-31 21:29:28 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-09-03 06:42:17 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Charles Vincent <xlch5  2008-09-03 13:00:33 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-09-03 11:12:15 
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idontwantanyspam@[EMAIL P  2008-09-03 21:14:03 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Charles Vincent <xlch5  2008-09-03 17:03:54 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-09-03 11:18:04 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-09-03 14:38:00 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Stuart & Kathry  2008-09-03 16:39:38 
Re: A Simple Auto Engine Conversion
"Morgans" <j  2008-09-03 18:34:36 

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