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Re: Asymmetrical thurst

by Jim Carter <jim.carter@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 10, 2008 at 09:46 PM

John R. Copeland wrote:

> "Jim Carter" <jim.carter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:jAjBj.15285$0o7.14324@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Watching the videos of the heavies crabbing to a landing in high cross
>> winds prompts me to ask: why don't they use asymmetrical thrust instead
>> of kicking it straight in the flare?
>> 
>> Even in a single, why don't we see more forward slips to a landing
>> instead of crab, kick, and pray?
>> 
>> Have these techniques gone the way of the steam gauges?
>>
> 
> You want to rethink that a little, Jim?
> How would asymmetrical thrust align the aircraft with the runway?
> 
> Also, forward slips are used to lose altitude. Sideslips compensate
> crosswinds.
> 
> But to answer that question anyway, neither steam gauges nor sideslips
are
> gone. I use both of them in my light twin, except that I try to keep my
> transition from crab to slip reasonably smooth, and combined with my
> pre-landing flare.


When I went thru multi training we used asymmetrical thrust a lot in
Oklahoma (cause the wind never stops) to control approach attitudes. I
hadn't thought the lag time was still that significant on the modern
turbofans, so I made a bad assumption that the technique would be
applicable to the heavies.

It's been so long now I'm not sure I remember the technique right off
hand,
but I believe we carried more power on the upwind engine and banked into
the wind. We didn't have to ride the rudders like in a single engine and
it
was much easier, prettier, and somewhat more stable in a crosswind.

You're right - I got my slips reversed. Side slip into the wind, forward
slip toward the runway. It's all relative to the line of travel.

I wonder what the response time is for the large modern turbofans.
 




 19 Posts in Topic:
Asymmetrical thurst
Jim Carter <jim.carter  2008-03-10 23:34:39 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
Matt Whiting <whiting@  2008-03-11 00:56:05 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
"Mortimer Schnerd, R  2008-03-10 21:09:26 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
Jay Maynard <jmaynard@  2008-03-11 01:16:14 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
"John R. Copeland&qu  2008-03-10 21:13:48 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
Jim Carter <jim.carter  2008-03-10 21:46:55 
Re: Asymmetrical thrust
"John R. Copeland&qu  2008-03-10 23:03:45 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
"Capt. Geoffrey Thor  2008-03-11 21:29:00 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
dane@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-24 15:08:23 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
"Robert M. Gary"  2008-03-10 20:11:45 
Re: Asymmetrical thrust
"John R. Copeland&qu  2008-03-10 23:43:14 
Re: Asymmetrical thrust
Bill Watson <Mauledriv  2008-03-11 18:34:45 
Re: Asymmetrical thrust
"John R. Copeland&qu  2008-03-11 20:48:36 
Re: Asymmetrical thrust
Bill Watson <Mauledriv  2008-03-11 21:00:02 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
"Kobra" <kob  2008-03-12 09:02:36 
Re: Asymmetrical thrust
"Mortimer Schnerd, R  2008-03-12 10:55:43 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
Bill Watson <Mauledriv  2008-03-12 11:46:25 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
"Stubby" <Wi  2008-03-12 16:22:47 
Re: Asymmetrical thurst
Sam Spade <sam@[EMAIL   2008-03-19 07:28:53 

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