Michael <usenetreplies@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>> or I can fly a certified australian
>> aircraft in american airspace on my australian licence under
>> reciprocal ICAO arrangements.
>
>Well, that's the point. If I read this correctly (Peter, please
>clarify) you won't be able to do that anymore unless you meet their
>requirements. For example, say you're a US private pilot flying an N-
>registered aircraft over there, and you have an instrument rating and
>some additional instrument time (say 80 hours total) - guess what, you
>don't meet their requirements and can't fly IFR, ICAO or no ICAO. And
>if you don't have 100 hours, you can't fly at all.
The exact way this would work is not yet known.
IMHO it is completely impossible for Europe to stop "true foreigners"
e.g. American pilots flying into European airspace on say an FAA
PPL/IR, in their N-reg planes. That would be a massive breach of ICAO
privileges.
Anyway, that is how airlines work!! This would stop airline operations
too, unless an exemption was made for authorised operators or whatever
(perhaps according to AOC holding).
Europe will *somehow* work this only against its own residents and how
this is determined is not yet known. This would be worked out by the
lawyers drafting the final regulation in years to come.
One hook could be EU citizen****p. Another could be being an EU
taxpayer. The French currently use EU residence
http://www.peter2000.co.uk/aviation/faa-nreg/DGAC-requirements.pdf
to prevent validating a foreign (e.g. FAA) license for F-reg planes
and since EASA is mostly French run, they may well take a leaf from
their own book. I simply don't know but obviously they would have to
do something like that.
Previous proposals to hit foreign (mainly American) planes based in
Europe were based around a long term parking limit on the airframe.
The last one, a British Govt proposal abandoned in 2006, would kick
them out after 90 days' parking. I know this sounds daft (what if the
plane cannot fly, due to some problem) but this one ran for about a
year before they dropped it. The French tried something similar a year
or two earlier and dropped that too, but a lot quicker.
This proposal is going after the pilots rather than the airframes and
is IMHO a lot more clever.
There would be obvious work-arounds for the most common scenarios e.g.
business jets. The owner would merely need to fire his EU-based crew
and replace them with non-residents or non-EU pass****t holders. Plenty
of such pilots are to be found in Europe.
BTW the earlier statement in this thread
>the euros have always required you to have competent knowledge of
>their airspace and be able to fly.
is irrelevant (and formally untrue). Obviously a pilot needs to know
the airspace he is flying in. Flying an on FAA license is no different
to flying on a JAA license. Neither IR prepares you for e.g. the weird
and wonderful world of Eurocontrol airway routings
http://www.peter2000.co.uk/aviation/ifr-flying/ifr-flying.html
:)
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