I'm reminded of something attributed to Sikorsky that said something like:
All designers should fly their designs. That way we would only have good
designers.
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"Orval Fairbairn" <orfairbairn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:orfairbairn-A55EA7.14500301092007@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article
> <john-014F79.09532901092007@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> "John A. Weeks III" <john@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> In article <642v8eah.fsf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> Bob Fry <bobfry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> > >>>>> "JW" == John A Weeks, <John> writes:
>> >
>> > JW> How do you mean "at it again"? Moller has been in business
>> > JW> for many years. They have had several highly successful
>> > JW> products, and they continue to develop their prototypes for
>> > JW> flying vehicles.
>> >
>> > If a business can consist of promoting a completely impractical
>> > machine, and products being successfully scammed grants and
>> > investments, then I agree with you.
>>
>> So, do you consider the Wright Brothers and Bell Helicopters
>> to be scams, also? One used a bicycle shop to fund a 20 year
>> long quest for powered flight, while the other spent 15 years
>> and 1.5-billion developing the tilt-rotor aircraft. How is
>> that any different from Moller manufacturing products like
>> mufflers and motors, and doing contract R&D, to fund his
>> dream of the flying car? In your world, would you have
>> put someone like Dean Kaman in prison for using profits from
>> his dialysis machine to fund the design of the Segway human
>> trans****ter? I guess you would have been leading the effort
>> to have Galileo blinded for looking into the heavens with
>> his telescope.
>>
>> -john-
>
> There is a HUGE difference between the Wrights, Sikorsky and BEll from
> Moller.
>
> The former used a methodical engineering and scientific approach to
> developing their machines BEFORE they announced them, whereas Moller,
> for at least 30 years, has announced his machines before they flew
> successfully.
>
> He does not hold an aeronautical engineering degree, is not a pilot and
> apparently has no clue as to how aircraft fly or operate. His machine is
> a Rube Goldberg contraption with 8 engines, all of which must be
> operating in perfect tune and "electronically synchronized".
>
> He has never had even one successful test flight without a tether or a
> crane keeping the thing in the air.
>
> How many ways can you spell "scam" or pronounce "s**** oil"?


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