"Robert M. Gary" <N7093v@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Aug 28, 2:44 pm, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" <u32749@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > noname wrote:
> > >I landed at Bridge****t air****t in Connecticut to pick up a friend and
> > >ended up at Atlantic Aviation Services. I was trying to get on the
> > >other side of the tarmac to where my friends plane was parked but it
> > >was blocked. The FBO guy waved me in to park and with nowhere else to
> > >go I parked. Before I got off the wing of my plane, I was told to pay
> > >ramp fees of $20.
> > >I told him I was going to leave and he insisted that I go inside and
> > >pay or I would get billed via N number. I went in and complained and
> > >they insisted again.
> >
> > >I paid and commented on their policy which left them surprised.
> >
> > >Is this legal to not have the ramp fees posted and demand payment
even
> > >though I offered to leave their ramp immediately?
> >
> > >I think that it is entrampment by having the ramp blocked and the
ramp
> > >rat guide me to parking.
> >
> > Are you sure that wasn't the landing fee? Both the A/FD and Airnav
list
> > the following :
> >
> > Parking fee all acft after 2 hrs. Ldg fee all acft except
> > solo students.
> >
> > As for unposted ramp fees, I don't like 'em either, but they do exist.
> > Seems to be mostly an Eastern U.S. thing. I rarely see them out in the
> > West
> > unless I'm going to a large class B or C air****t, or if it's an FBO
like
> > Millionare or Signature, which are somewhat famous for charging ramp
> > fees.
> > When in doubt, I usually call ahead and ask, or check Airnav.
>
> I use Millionare and Signature all the time. I decided awhile back
> that the extra fees are more than worth it for the extra help you get
> for the rental car, service, etc when flying with the family. I know a
> lot of guys who's family (wife, etc) won't fly with them because they
> see it as a hassle. Spend the few extra bucks and have Signature fill
> up your plane rather than make your wife get into a hot airplane, taxi
> over to fuel, get out, get back in, etc. Just makes everything easier.
> I usually buy gas, O2 and snacks, etc. I don't mention the tie down
> and they often forget to charge me for it so its often not an issue.
> These "top grade" FBOs are also great when the rental car company
> screws up your car (which is frequent), because they will drive you
> over to the rental car lot or even to your hotel for free.
I prefer the independent FBOs to the big chains like Millionair and
Signature. Usually their service is good, but sometimes they treat you
like
a leper if you are a Avgas burner. They will quite often park you in the
remotest corner of their ramp to make room for the cor****ate guys and I've
had them refuse the courtesy car because they only had one available and
it
was "reserved". I've also had a few other bad experiences with those
particular two. I really don't blame them because they are catering to a
customer who is buying north of 1000 gals of fuel rather than one who is
buying south of 100. Their prices are also typically outrageous for fuel
and they will routinely charge you $40-50 to fill up a small O2 tank.
I just prefer to go to organizations who cater mostly to the piston guys.
I've gotten service equally as good and they appreciate your business.


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