On Aug 29, 8:39=A0am, "Mike" <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Dave" <bonanza...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Mike wrote:
> >> "noname" <bonanza...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> I landed at Bridge****t air****t in Connecticut to pick up a friend
and
> >>> ended up at Atlantic Aviation Services. I was trying to get on the
> >>> other side of the tarmac to where my friends plane was parked but it
> >>> was blocked. The FBO guy waved me in to park and with nowhere else
to
> >>> go I parked. Before I got off the wing of my plane, I was told to
pay
> >>> ramp fees of $20.
> >>> I told him I was going to leave and he insisted that I go inside and
> >>> pay or I would get billed via N number. I went in and complained and
> >>> they insisted again.
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> >>> I paid and commented on their policy which left them surprised.
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> >>> Is this legal to not have the ramp fees posted and demand payment
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> >>> though I offered to leave their ramp immediately?
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> >> Yes, it is legal. =A0When you land at an air****t, you are essentially
> >> patronizing a business and the responsibility is with you to
investiga=
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> >> such things beforehand.
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> >>> I think that it is entrampment by having the ramp blocked and the
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> >>> rat guide me to parking.
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> >> In this case, their fees were clearly posted in the official
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> >> and the fee advertized was a landing fee, not a ramp fee. =A0So you
> >> incurred that cost as soon as your wheels hit the runway, not when
you
> >> taxied to the ramp. It may also be the air****t, and not the FBO who
is
> >> charging the fee. =A0The FBO may just be the collection point.
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> > No the landing fees are totally different than the ramp fees. The
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> > charges the landing fees and the FBO charges the ramp fees.
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> The FBO is most likely the collection point for the landing fees.
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> > I was flying with an instructor who works from that air****t and was
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> > totally appalled.
> > I have yet to see anywhere where it is advertised that there is a
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> > ramp fee. If anybody can find one, please let me know and I'll accept
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> > I was taken by my own ignorance.
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> It's certainly not rare for FBOs to charge a fee for using their ramp,
> especially if you are not buying fuel. =A0Typically they are leasing
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ramp
> space from the owner of the air****t, and if that space is limited you
can
> bet they are going to discourage non-customer aircraft from using it.
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Your
> instructor should have known that, especially if he's based there.
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> From the air****t diagram, there are several parking areas listed other
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> the ramp. =A0Why didn't you use one of those? =A0Even with FBOs that
don'=
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> charge a ramp fee, it's bad form to use their ramp if you're not a
custom=
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> and there's other space available. =A0The reason is because they are
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> send someone out to park you, chalk your aircraft, put down the red
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> and/or put cones around your aircraft because they assume you are a
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I understand about ramp fees and why they are used. There was no
information anywhere about charging the ramp fee.
When told there was a ramp fee, they gave me no option to move the
airplane and go. I didn't ask to be parked.
I was picking up the instructor.
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