Re: 2 recent incidents

Most glider pilots will only make the mistake of releasing on a rudder 
waggle one time.. if they survive that.. and then a discussion is had at 
ground speed = zero... they may remember.

But then again.. some will repeat the mistake a second time... As a CFIG
.. 
that bugs me..

As a tow pilot.. and I cant' get a radio call in because of all the
unneeded 
chatter on the CTAF.. If I'm climbing ok, I'll wait to make the radio
call.. 
but if I'm not climbing and need those spoilers closed NOW.. I'll wag the 
rudders.. if the glider pilot decides he needs to release.. he made the 
decision and my problem as tow pilot is solved.

BT

"Ramy" <ryanetz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> Two recent incidents which all sounds too familiar and we can all
> learn from them:
>
> 1 - Another spoilers out/rudder waggle resulting in premature release
> - How many more of those we need till we conclude that the rudder
> waggle does NOT work? What happened to radio communication?
> http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20080603X00777&key=1
>
> 2 - Another restricted control due to unsecured item. I bet this
> caused more accidents then we know of.
> http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20080606X00809&key=1
>
> Ramy