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Re: 2 recent incidents

by "BT" <bNOtiz2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 26, 2008 at 06:49 PM

Most glider pilots will only make the mistake of releasing on a rudder 
waggle one time.. if they survive that.. and then a discussion is had at 
ground speed = zero... they may remember.

But then again.. some will repeat the mistake a second time... As a CFIG
.. 
that bugs me..

As a tow pilot.. and I cant' get a radio call in because of all the
unneeded 
chatter on the CTAF.. If I'm climbing ok, I'll wait to make the radio
call.. 
but if I'm not climbing and need those spoilers closed NOW.. I'll wag the 
rudders.. if the glider pilot decides he needs to release.. he made the 
decision and my problem as tow pilot is solved.

BT

"Ramy" <ryanetz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:c1973b01-80b2-46a0-9395-19ba76157ae8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Two recent incidents which all sounds too familiar and we can all
> learn from them:
>
> 1 - Another spoilers out/rudder waggle resulting in premature release
> - How many more of those we need till we conclude that the rudder
> waggle does NOT work? What happened to radio communication?
> http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20080603X00777&key=1
>
> 2 - Another restricted control due to unsecured item. I bet this
> caused more accidents then we know of.
> http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?ev_id=20080606X00809&key=1
>
> Ramy
 




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Ramy <ryanetz@[EMAIL P  2008-06-25 16:17:18 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-25 17:04:42 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-25 19:27:28 
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Gary Emerson <emerson_  2008-06-25 20:07:02 
Re: 2 recent incidents
"Bill Daniels"   2008-06-25 21:02:28 
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Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-25 23:07:36 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-06-26 09:51:28 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-26 06:00:35 
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Jack <jack_hallett@[EM  2008-07-17 00:35:08 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-25 18:21:24 
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Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-25 20:33:15 
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RRK <richardkaleta@[EM  2008-06-25 21:06:53 
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John Smith <john@[EMAI  2008-06-26 14:20:32 
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R <Nospam@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-26 16:25:04 
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Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-27 13:12:54 
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unclhank@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-26 07:32:41 
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John Smith <john@[EMAI  2008-06-26 19:19:55 
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jb92563 <jb92563@[EMAI  2008-06-26 08:25:43 
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Marc Ramsey <marc@[EMA  2008-06-26 09:12:52 
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Bob Whelan <rfwhelan@[  2008-06-26 11:20:02 
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"Bill Daniels"   2008-06-26 12:34:55 
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Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-26 09:10:30 
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"kirk.stant" &l  2008-06-26 10:24:28 
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Ramy <ryanetz@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 10:44:28 
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ZZ <zzuluzulu@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 17:47:04 
Re: 2 recent incidents
"BT" <bNOtiz  2008-06-26 18:49:03 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Ramy <ryanetz@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 21:52:35 
Re: 2 recent incidents
ZZ <zzuluzulu@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 08:14:50 
Re: 2 recent incidents
"Bill Daniels"   2008-06-27 14:49:47 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Tinpilot <ed@[EMAIL  2008-06-27 21:57:54 
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Tinpilot <ed@[EMAIL  2008-06-27 22:57:53 
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Nigel Pocock <nigelpoc  2008-06-27 16:57:55 
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jb92563 <jb92563@[EMAI  2008-06-27 08:31:08 
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Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-28 12:27:51 
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Ed Downham <remove_to_  2008-06-29 09:57:49 
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Ramy <ryanetz@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 14:18:50 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Eric Greenwell <flyguy  2008-07-04 18:12:22 
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Ian <ian.no@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-28 00:06:28 
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Lavajava@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-29 18:46:59 
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jb92563 <jb92563@[EMAI  2008-07-17 08:11:11 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Don Johnstone <gpnet2@  2008-07-17 21:41:42 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Martin Gregorie <marti  2008-07-18 15:05:59 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-07-18 07:16:05 

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