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Re: 2 recent incidents

by Lavajava@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 29, 2008 at 06:46 PM

On Jun 25, 8:07=A0pm, Gary Emerson <emerson_g...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> How many more of those we need till we conclude that the rudder
>
> > waggle does NOT work?
>
> I think this is a reasonably valid point. =A0There HAVE been a number of
> people who have misunderstood this signal.
>
> Perhaps something else would be better. =A0The question is what signal
> would be a good replacement. =A0You could have fla****ng lights on the
> towplane, perhaps mounted just above the towhitch. =A0The only thing is
> you'd probably have to install two lights. =A0Say one yellow and one
red.
>
> Yellow means you've got a problem, but if you can get it fixed pretty
> quick we'll keep going. =A0Red means get off now or I'm gonna dump you.
>
> If you don't have two signals, I'd bet that we'd still have people
> releasing when they didn't have to.
>
> As I think about it, it might be best if there was a single array of
> high output LEDs. =A0When both "colors" of the array are "on" then you
> have a single visible color that means "ok" (red and blue make green in
> concept, but in emitted light that combination doesn't work). =A0That
way
> the glider pilot can verify at the start that both signals "work" and
> they stay "on" for the duration of the tow. =A0If either the "warning"
or
> "get off" switches are selected in the cockpit then only the
> corresponding "color" is then visible to the glider pilot. =A0Perhaps
with=

> the "warning" being a steady signal and "get off" being a rapid flash to
> help with fast recognition and a sense of urgency.
>
> Other thoughts?

I don't know....

Our club drillsit in to us about the signals, has safety meetings
every year, and it just so happens I was behind the tow plane in a
2-22 several years ago when the Pawnee had an engine failure. We were
at 1800' AGL but I recognized the signal to release and did so... All
turned out OK. In that instance there was not a lot of time for radio-
comm, though I always listen to traffic while on tow and while in the
pattern.

I think learning the signals AND using radios offer the best way to
fly safe.

Pete Gaveras
 




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2 recent incidents
Ramy <ryanetz@[EMAIL P  2008-06-25 16:17:18 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-25 17:04:42 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-25 19:27:28 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Gary Emerson <emerson_  2008-06-25 20:07:02 
Re: 2 recent incidents
"Bill Daniels"   2008-06-25 21:02:28 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-25 23:07:36 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-06-26 09:51:28 
Re: 2 recent incidents
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-26 06:00:35 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Jack <jack_hallett@[EM  2008-07-17 00:35:08 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-25 18:21:24 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-25 20:33:15 
Re: 2 recent incidents
RRK <richardkaleta@[EM  2008-06-25 21:06:53 
Re: 2 recent incidents
John Smith <john@[EMAI  2008-06-26 14:20:32 
Re: 2 recent incidents
R <Nospam@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-26 16:25:04 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-27 13:12:54 
Re: 2 recent incidents
unclhank@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-26 07:32:41 
Re: 2 recent incidents
John Smith <john@[EMAI  2008-06-26 19:19:55 
Re: 2 recent incidents
jb92563 <jb92563@[EMAI  2008-06-26 08:25:43 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Marc Ramsey <marc@[EMA  2008-06-26 09:12:52 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Bob Whelan <rfwhelan@[  2008-06-26 11:20:02 
Re: 2 recent incidents
"Bill Daniels"   2008-06-26 12:34:55 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-26 09:10:30 
Re: 2 recent incidents
"kirk.stant" &l  2008-06-26 10:24:28 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Ramy <ryanetz@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 10:44:28 
Re: 2 recent incidents
ZZ <zzuluzulu@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 17:47:04 
Re: 2 recent incidents
"BT" <bNOtiz  2008-06-26 18:49:03 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Ramy <ryanetz@[EMAIL P  2008-06-26 21:52:35 
Re: 2 recent incidents
ZZ <zzuluzulu@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 08:14:50 
Re: 2 recent incidents
"Bill Daniels"   2008-06-27 14:49:47 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Tinpilot <ed@[EMAIL  2008-06-27 21:57:54 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Tinpilot <ed@[EMAIL  2008-06-27 22:57:53 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Nigel Pocock <nigelpoc  2008-06-27 16:57:55 
Re: 2 recent incidents
jb92563 <jb92563@[EMAI  2008-06-27 08:31:08 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-28 12:27:51 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Ed Downham <remove_to_  2008-06-29 09:57:49 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Ramy <ryanetz@[EMAIL P  2008-06-27 14:18:50 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Eric Greenwell <flyguy  2008-07-04 18:12:22 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Ian <ian.no@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-28 00:06:28 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Lavajava@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-29 18:46:59 
Re: 2 recent incidents
jb92563 <jb92563@[EMAI  2008-07-17 08:11:11 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Don Johnstone <gpnet2@  2008-07-17 21:41:42 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Martin Gregorie <marti  2008-07-18 15:05:59 
Re: 2 recent incidents
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-07-18 07:16:05 

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