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Re: Tom Knauff's newsletter

by DP <dpiotro@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 30, 2008 at 12:54 PM

On Jun 29, 9:32=A0pm, pik20pi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Has anyone read this? What is your opinion? Tom Knauff certainly
> doesn't provide any facts to sup****t his conclusions. The following
> statement in particular should anger each glider pilot, CFIG and
> examiner: "The point of this is the demonstrable fact that most glider
> pilots do not have the fundamental knowledge to fly safely. (Perhaps
> with the exception of very controlled cir***stances.)"
>
> When I questioned him on this he simply offered the following:=93Oh, by
> the way, the test results demonstrate the point.=94
>
> Really? What tests? Where=92s the empirical data? =A0Has he just perused
> NTSB re****ts or is it firsthand knowledge? Does he speak of transition
> pilots or =93from scratch=94 students. Why does he only mention glider
> pilots and not general aviation? What has he done to change the FAA
> PTS?
>
> I personally know two CFIG=92s who have crashed with passengers on
> board. One passenger died and the other passenger will never be the
> same. One CFIG continues to fly and the other has withdrawn from the
> glider community and, quite possibly, aviation altogether. Are they to
> be included in Tom=92s categorical statements? I think not.
>
> It is not just glider pilots. It isn=92t just the low time pilot.
> Everyone makes mistakes. For Tom to make such broad statements just to
> sell some books is reckless and doesn=92t provide any real help to our
> small community.
>
> Is there a gap in training and real flying? You bet. So why isn=92t he
> tapping on the shoulder of every CFIG, DPE, and the FAA?
>
> His offhand comments smack in the same style as John Scherer=92s
> commercials for the Video Professor; =93Buy my product.=94
>
> Warren
>
> The complete newsletter:
> Several of you have asked for answers to the questions, and want more
> questions.
> At the end of most chapters of the first training manual, "Glider
> Basics From First Flight To Solo," there are im****tant end of chapter
> questions.
> Also, "The Bronze Badge Book" has nearly 300 im****tant questions and
> answers.
> You can order these and other books from our web site listed below.
> The point of this is the demonstrable fact that most glider pilots do
> not have the fundamental knowledge to fly safely. (Perhaps with the
> exception of very controlled cir***stances.)
> I recently had a person contact me about flight training. He explained
> that he did not need any ground school because he was going to take
> the FAA written test before arriving at our school. I expect him to go
> elsewhere for his training.
> Everyone gets a score on the FAA test in the high 90s because the
> questions and answers are available to them. Unfortunately, the FAA
> written test does not ask questions like, "Why does an aircraft have a
> rudder?" =A0Or, "What color field is generally best for an off field
> landing?" =A0Or, "At what altitude can you see cow's legs?"
> Thomas Knauff
> Knauff & Grove Soaring Supplies
> Ridge Soaring Glider****t
> 3523 S Eagle Valley Rd
> Julian, Pa 16844
>
> Phone 814 355 2483
> tkna...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 think Tom should be commended for speaking out about this subject.
It's certainly not the first time he's raised these points.  After
reading similar comments from him years ago I traveled to Ridge
Soaring to be trained by him and learned first hand some of the
deficiencies embedded in my knowlege, technique, judgment, and prior
training. I have continued to try and meet the high bar he set for me
during those lessons. I've also had the op****tunity to fly at many
locations, both clubs and commercial, and have observed activities
that seem to be totally in line with what Tom says. It seems to be
quite a stretch to think that his comments are merely a marketing plan
for his books!  As for the scientific basis of his comments or of any
studies related to glider safety, you don't need to be in the s****t
very long to know that they are certainly directionaly correct....and
that we should all strive to be better, safer pilots.
 




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Tom Knauff's newsletter
pik20pilot@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-06-29 20:32:27 
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Randy <rgteel@[EMAIL P  2008-06-30 00:42:30 
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Ian <ian.groups@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 02:40:13 
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tknauff@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-30 04:34:01 
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Chris Reed <chris.reed  2008-06-30 15:13:43 
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Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-30 19:57:43 
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Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-30 12:49:54 
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"Bill Daniels"   2008-06-30 12:38:10 
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Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-06-30 20:27:43 
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Bob Whelan <rfwhelan@[  2008-06-30 16:31:42 
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Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-06-30 23:57:44 
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Brad <apispilot@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 17:39:50 
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"Bill Daniels"   2008-06-30 19:04:20 
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"bumper" <bu  2008-07-01 15:24:16 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-01 07:12:39 
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Gary Emerson <emerson_  2008-07-01 06:43:46 
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Soarin Again <shadowli  2008-07-01 13:57:40 
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"Bill Daniels"   2008-07-01 08:08:03 
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"Mike Schumann"  2008-07-01 21:33:41 
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George Knight <george_  2008-07-02 17:12:38 
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George Knight <george_  2008-07-02 17:12:37 
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Uncle Fuzzy <james.d.w  2008-07-02 11:35:18 
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Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-07-02 18:57:36 
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Uncle Fuzzy <james.d.w  2008-07-02 11:40:37 
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George Knight <george_  2008-07-02 17:12:38 
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unclhank@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-30 05:34:17 
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DP <dpiotro@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-30 12:54:17 
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Brad <apispilot@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 13:08:31 
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Ian <ian.groups@[EMAIL  2008-06-30 23:44:54 
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sparkasw27@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-01 19:29:53 
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"Bill Daniels"   2008-07-01 21:26:26 
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Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-07-03 17:27:33 
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Tony Verhulst <no@[EMA  2008-07-03 19:41:47 
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Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-07-04 03:27:31 
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Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-07-04 03:27:31 
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sisu1a <paul@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-03 17:06:06 
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Tony Verhulst <no@[EMA  2008-07-03 22:14:53 
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sisu1a <paul@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-03 22:02:35 
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"kirk.stant" &l  2008-07-04 06:00:33 
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tknauff@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-04 15:10:54 
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Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-07-04 18:56:24 
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Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-07-05 15:27:26 
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Andy <a.durbin@[EMAIL   2008-07-05 06:33:34 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2008-07-05 08:20:16 
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"Bill Daniels"   2008-07-05 08:30:56 
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Frank Whiteley <frank.  2008-07-05 07:54:16 
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Brian <brianfcase@[EMA  2008-07-05 16:26:10 
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Andy <a.durbin@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 16:22:09 
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Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-07-02 19:02:36 
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"Bill Daniels"   2008-07-02 18:13:30 
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Martin Gregorie <marti  2008-07-03 16:20:08 
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Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-07-03 21:21:26 

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