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Re: Glider curious

by Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 1, 2008 at 04:39 AM

Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jun 29, 3:09 pm, Clark <c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Cats <ramwa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:a45364ea-e5a3-4d46-a63a-
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>> > On Jun 29, 12:53 am, Clark <c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> Certificated PP taking my first glider ride tomorrow. Not ready to
go
>> ove
>> > r to
>> >> the unpowered side but glider curious enough to take a lesson.
>>
>> >> Supposed to take 3 or so rides in a 2-33. If I was prepping for a 
ride
>> in
>> >  an
>> >> unfam aircraft I'd make a list of V speeds and pay attention to 
anythi
> ng
>> > new.
>> >> About all I've done for the glider ride is peruse the FAA glider
>> handbook
>> > .
>>
>> >> What should I know about the 2-33?
>>
>> > Your instructor will know everything you need to know about it and
>> > will brief you.  Enjoy the rides, and remember you have feet on the
>> > end of your legs and will need to use them to produce co-ordinated
>> > turns.
>>
>> Of course the instructor should know everything I need to know. If I
can
>> learn a few im****tant bits beforehand then I'm better prepared for the
>> lesson and maximize my benefit.
>>
>> There are many different learning styles. If I can read it and work 
throu
> gh
>> things before doing it then I retain much better than just going out,
>> hearing it and then doing it.
>>
> 
> The thing is that all these V speeds are not im****tant for your first
> few flights.  You won't be flying solo, you won't do the launches and
> landings and I suspect it's unlikely you will be exploring the stall
> charactaristics.  What does matter (IMHO) is to enjoy the experience
> (OK, maybe you are someone who needs the numbers to enjoy it), and
> hopefully to see what might make gliding a compelling s****t for you.
> 
> I can't tell you the V speeds for my glider (except for max winch
> speedwhich is low at 65 knots) but the ASI is clearly marked.  I had
> it donw in the winter and double-checked them when I collected it, as
> when I need to know them I will have a lot on my mind - making it easy
> with colour coding is well worth the few quid it cost me.
> 
> However I do know (approximately) what my min sink and best LD speeds
> are, and where to set the trimmer for lanuching.  :)


Yup, I stalled it - it was a total non-event. Slow flight and stalls are 
im****tant areas to check out when learning a new aircraft. Some people 
claim to not like stalls but they are a normal part of every flight.

Yup I knew what speeds to fly. Yup I flew most of the tow on the second
go. 
Couldn't hold it for more than a few seconds on the first go, man what a 
mess I made of it. The tow is an unreal experience. Pattern and landing
was 
easier than any powered craft I've flown. 

Clearly the ergonomics of the 2-33 are lousy. The spoiler control 
arrangement was really poorly thought out. Maybe really small people can 
get full stick motion, work the left rudder and the spoiler but I'm 
thinkin' most adults can't.

As for knowing Vspeeds and any other limitations, that's just part of
being 
prepared to fly. If ya aren't prepared, why even bother to show up? I'm a 
pilot, not a pax.
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Glider curious
Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-28 23:53:52 
Re: Glider curious
DRN <drn@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-28 17:25:20 
Re: Glider curious
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-28 18:28:56 
Re: Glider curious
Ralph Jones <ralph@[EM  2008-06-29 08:57:49 
Re: Glider curious
Brian <brianfcase@[EMA  2008-06-29 07:37:56 
Re: Glider curious
Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-29 17:42:47 
Re: Glider curious
Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-29 18:05:27 
Re: Glider curious
Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-06-29 19:12:48 
Re: Glider curious
jb92563 <jb92563@[EMAI  2008-07-31 07:34:19 
Re: Glider curious
"BT" <bNOtiz  2008-06-28 21:45:22 
Re: Glider curious
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-28 22:09:27 
Re: Glider curious
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-29 06:02:05 
Re: Glider curious
Tony Clark <tonyclark@  2008-06-29 07:57:49 
Re: Glider curious
Chris Nicholas <remove  2008-06-29 10:57:48 
Re: Glider curious
Ralph Jones <ralph@[EM  2008-06-29 09:05:14 
Re: Glider curious
wby0nder@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-29 06:57:35 
Re: Glider curious
Frank Whiteley <frank.  2008-06-29 09:22:52 
Re: Glider curious
"Kevin Anderson&quo  2008-06-29 09:47:56 
Re: Glider curious
"BT" <bNOtiz  2008-06-29 15:21:44 
Re: Glider curious
Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-30 12:57:44 
Re: Glider curious
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 19:37:45 
Re: Glider curious
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-29 05:30:32 
Re: Glider curious
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 00:25:48 
Re: Glider curious
Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-29 14:09:06 
Re: Glider curious
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 19:45:45 
Re: Glider curious
Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-01 04:39:32 
Re: Glider curious
Tony Clark <tonyclark@  2008-07-01 11:12:41 
Re: Glider curious
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 19:52:21 
Re: Glider curious
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 13:34:44 
Re: Glider curious
Martin Gregorie <marti  2008-07-02 22:58:01 
Re: Glider curious
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 01:17:38 
Re: Glider curious
Tony Clark <tonyclark@  2008-07-03 11:27:35 
Re: Glider curious
Tony Clark <tonyclark@  2008-07-03 11:27:36 
Re: Glider curious
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 10:45:48 
Re: Glider curious
dscopel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-30 08:24:11 
Re: Glider curious
J a c k <baron58y@[EMA  2008-07-29 13:09:26 
Re: Glider curious
"Tim Mara" <  2008-07-29 16:15:02 
Re: Glider curious
Nick Kennedy <nkavalan  2008-07-30 02:55:59 
Re: Glider curious
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-07-29 16:59:05 
Re: Glider curious
J a c k <baron58y@[EMA  2008-07-29 20:00:50 
Re: Glider curious
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-07-30 06:04:14 
Re: Glider curious
J a c k <baron58y@[EMA  2008-07-30 08:14:25 
Re: Glider curious
Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-07-30 14:25:57 
Re: Glider curious
Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-07-30 17:10:57 
Re: Glider curious
Uncle Fuzzy <james.d.w  2008-07-30 09:22:31 
Re: Glider curious
"Bill Daniels"   2008-07-29 19:53:24 
Re: Glider curious
J a c k <baron58y@[EMA  2008-07-29 21:47:22 
Re: Glider curious
Bob Whelan <rfwhelan@[  2008-07-30 17:26:41 

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