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Re: Glider curious

by "Bill Daniels" <bildan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 29, 2008 at 07:53 PM

"Jim Logajan" <JamesL@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:Xns9AEA987778D9CJamesLLugojcom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>J a c k <baron58y@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> dscopel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You definitly need to love flying to accept to be trained in a
>>> Schweizer.
>>
>>
>> I take it you don't love flying. Why do you do it?
>
> I just re-read the post you responded to and it doesn't look like he
> doesn't love flying - he just claimed that you have to love it to endure
> some of the demands of some of the trainers. He had some criticisms of
> training in a Schweizer which seemed to resonate with me (a newcomer).
> Keeping in mind that I have essentially no stick-time in anything other
> than a 2-33 and therefore don't have anything to compare it to, I'd have

> to
> agree with one of his statements:
>
> He wrote: "... I remember that I have to push hard on the stick to
prevent
> that flying crayfish to nose up. And since the stick was far away from
my
> body...." Sounds familiar! I noticed during my a*****ows that even with
the
> 2-33A's bungee trim all the way forward I still have to hold the stick
> almost to the end of my arm's reach - and still effect fine motor
control.
> My arm would definitely start feeling the stress. We tried both an extra
> back cu****on (to bring my torso forward) and forward ballast, but I
can't
> say either one helped that much and each had minor downsides. Many tows
> later I think various factors are reducing the issue to a minor
annoyance.
>
> Maybe such complaints merely indicate some of us are wusses who would
lose
> an arm wrestling contest in an instant. ;-)

There are lots of bad ergonomics built in to the 2-33.  The worst is it's 
nearly impossible for the student to use any left aileron with half
spoilers 
deployed since his left leg is trapped between the spoiler control and the

stick.  This clearly violates a minimum requirement for standard type 
certificates in that no primary flight control is allowed to interfere
with 
another.

Bill Daniels
 




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Glider curious
Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-28 23:53:52 
Re: Glider curious
DRN <drn@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-28 17:25:20 
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Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-28 18:28:56 
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Ralph Jones <ralph@[EM  2008-06-29 08:57:49 
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Brian <brianfcase@[EMA  2008-06-29 07:37:56 
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Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-29 17:42:47 
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Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-29 18:05:27 
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Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-06-29 19:12:48 
Re: Glider curious
jb92563 <jb92563@[EMAI  2008-07-31 07:34:19 
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"BT" <bNOtiz  2008-06-28 21:45:22 
Re: Glider curious
Darryl Ramm <darryl.ra  2008-06-28 22:09:27 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-29 06:02:05 
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Tony Clark <tonyclark@  2008-06-29 07:57:49 
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Chris Nicholas <remove  2008-06-29 10:57:48 
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Ralph Jones <ralph@[EM  2008-06-29 09:05:14 
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wby0nder@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-29 06:57:35 
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Frank Whiteley <frank.  2008-06-29 09:22:52 
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"Kevin Anderson&quo  2008-06-29 09:47:56 
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"BT" <bNOtiz  2008-06-29 15:21:44 
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Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-06-30 12:57:44 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 19:37:45 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-29 05:30:32 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 00:25:48 
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Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-29 14:09:06 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 19:45:45 
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Clark <ch2@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-01 04:39:32 
Re: Glider curious
Tony Clark <tonyclark@  2008-07-01 11:12:41 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-06-29 19:52:21 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-07-02 13:34:44 
Re: Glider curious
Martin Gregorie <marti  2008-07-02 22:58:01 
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Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 01:17:38 
Re: Glider curious
Tony Clark <tonyclark@  2008-07-03 11:27:35 
Re: Glider curious
Tony Clark <tonyclark@  2008-07-03 11:27:36 
Re: Glider curious
Cats <ramwater@[EMAIL   2008-07-03 10:45:48 
Re: Glider curious
dscopel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-30 08:24:11 
Re: Glider curious
J a c k <baron58y@[EMA  2008-07-29 13:09:26 
Re: Glider curious
"Tim Mara" <  2008-07-29 16:15:02 
Re: Glider curious
Nick Kennedy <nkavalan  2008-07-30 02:55:59 
Re: Glider curious
Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-07-29 16:59:05 
Re: Glider curious
J a c k <baron58y@[EMA  2008-07-29 20:00:50 
Re: Glider curious
Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-07-30 06:04:14 
Re: Glider curious
J a c k <baron58y@[EMA  2008-07-30 08:14:25 
Re: Glider curious
Nyal Williams <nyalwil  2008-07-30 14:25:57 
Re: Glider curious
Jim Beckman <jamesbeck  2008-07-30 17:10:57 
Re: Glider curious
Uncle Fuzzy <james.d.w  2008-07-30 09:22:31 
Re: Glider curious
"Bill Daniels"   2008-07-29 19:53:24 
Re: Glider curious
J a c k <baron58y@[EMA  2008-07-29 21:47:22 
Re: Glider curious
Bob Whelan <rfwhelan@[  2008-07-30 17:26:41 

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