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Re: Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.

by "Peter Dohm" <lefty133@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 10, 2008 at 10:32 AM

"Le Chaud Lapin" <jaibuduvin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:8675d961-0cdf-49a3-8927-8f0fc8ad6421@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jun 9, 10:48 pm, "Robert M. Gary" <N70...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 8:18 pm, Le Chaud Lapin <jaibudu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Both these explanations are true, but one of them eliminates the need
> > for $30 product (or $30,000 aircraft) to know what is going on.
>
> I find that its pretty difficult to teach students to fly without the
> aircraft.

That brings us full-circle to a theme that was mildly explored in
another post - what utility, if any, is there in using a simulator to
learn things that do not require actual flying.

So here the question would be whether it is possible to understand how
a trim tab works without ever having flown an aircraft.

I have flown in DA-20 and Tomahawk, but I do not think actual flight
would have been necessary to understand how trim tab works.

-Le Chaud Lapin-

Well, it's been a long time since I flew a Tomahawk and I never flew the 
DA-20, and my Tomahawk manual has gone AWOL; but I don't recall the
Tomahawk 
having a tab--IIRC, it had a spring system.  That gives a different "feel"

and a different contribution to the feel of the primary controls; but
there 
should have been little motivation for MS to attempt to model those 
subtleties--especially since the purchaser has choices in the physical 
controls (yokes, etc.) attached to his computer.

Knowing how the systems work can be intellectually interesting for the 
technically oriented; essential for designers, builders and mechanics; and

can easily save your life in the event of a systems failure in a real 
aircraft.  Therefore, most members of this group need to know the systems
on 
the aircraft they actually fly; but have no need for all of the possible 
combinations and permutations.

The bottom line is that you are apparently part of the primary market for 
MSFS and it gives you enjoyment.  OTOH, most members of this group (who
use 
it at all) use it as a tool for procedure training, such as practicing 
intercepts and approaches, and do so for efficiency rather than 
entertainment.

Peter
 




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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-07 22:08:12 
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WingFlaps <Moreflaps@[  2008-06-08 02:18:58 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-12 05:08:08 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-12 19:57:16 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-12 09:43:07 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-12 19:58:50 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-12 21:53:32 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 09:38:06 
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thor  2008-06-08 12:05:51 
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Michael Henry <michael  2008-06-09 12:17:24 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-08 09:07:16 
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Buster Hymen <BusterHy  2008-06-08 18:12:56 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 10:20:56 
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thor  2008-06-08 15:29:24 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-08 10:21:01 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 10:24:10 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 10:28:56 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 18:25:34 
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Rich Ahrens <rma@[EMAI  2008-06-08 16:16:26 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 21:25:06 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-08 13:01:34 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-08 14:01:00 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 21:06:28 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-08 14:22:12 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 21:24:26 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-08 14:39:18 
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Rich Ahrens <rma@[EMAI  2008-06-08 17:46:40 
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Marty Shapiro <News@[E  2008-06-09 00:14:50 
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terry <tfmann@[EMAIL P  2008-06-08 14:40:27 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-08 15:31:34 
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terry <tfmann@[EMAIL P  2008-06-08 15:52:02 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-08 16:03:16 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-08 16:06:07 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-08 18:25:18 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 20:54:52 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-09 04:21:25 
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Gezellig <geezellig@[E  2008-06-09 04:21:08 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 21:01:14 
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Andy Hawkins <andy@[EM  2008-06-09 08:26:19 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 22:24:07 
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Stealth Pilot <notrans  2008-06-09 21:21:34 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-09 14:15:39 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-08 22:34:29 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 07:25:00 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-09 16:34:41 
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"Maxwell" <l  2008-06-09 12:06:54 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 08:58:14 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 09:34:33 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-09 16:58:26 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-09 13:19:33 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 09:38:43 
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Andy Hawkins <andy@[EM  2008-06-10 08:28:34 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-09 10:07:47 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 11:06:10 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 11:07:43 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-10 09:16:17 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 11:31:33 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-10 09:13:43 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 11:36:02 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-09 15:30:56 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-09 12:20:19 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 14:27:04 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 16:19:29 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 20:18:42 
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"Maxwell" <l  2008-06-09 23:30:33 
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"BDS" <skyhi  2008-06-10 06:04:17 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-06-10 10:45:10 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 20:48:35 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 21:12:54 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-10 09:14:53 
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Bob Noel <ihatessppaam  2008-06-10 06:14:25 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-06-10 10:32:30 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-09 22:28:20 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 22:29:58 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-10 07:05:22 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-10 07:13:40 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-10 07:44:25 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-10 08:29:45 
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Tauno Voipio <tauno.vo  2008-06-10 17:09:16 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-10 10:22:27 
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Gezellig <nokonihi@[EM  2008-06-11 18:15:34 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-13 11:02:35 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-13 21:23:06 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-22 01:12:51 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-10 11:24:39 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-10 21:45:27 
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Gezellig <nokonihi@[EM  2008-06-11 18:31:14 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-14 00:33:00 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-14 15:26:14 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-22 01:17:08 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-11 03:28:05 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-11 20:05:04 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-15 16:18:37 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-22 01:19:03 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-14 21:14:47 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-15 13:30:29 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-15 16:34:37 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-15 20:42:57 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-15 21:16:50 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-16 08:08:26 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-16 09:27:43 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-16 09:42:04 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-16 10:55:13 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-16 11:10:36 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-06-16 21:43:53 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-16 11:33:26 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-16 14:47:13 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-16 20:51:33 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-16 22:57:30 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-17 19:23:49 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-18 09:10:12 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-18 13:12:16 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-18 13:17:18 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-18 16:01:06 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-18 21:35:02 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-18 14:22:00 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-18 16:46:41 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-18 18:56:57 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-18 21:37:35 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-19 05:05:03 
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pappson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-19 06:26:20 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 07:40:55 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 09:14:18 
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"Allen" <ha_  2008-06-19 13:15:54 
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John Smith <jsmith@[EM  2008-06-20 18:28:16 
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pappson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-19 09:16:46 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 09:20:33 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-19 09:43:44 
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"BDS" <skyhi  2008-06-19 13:15:30 
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pappson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-19 10:42:50 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 11:01:39 
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"BDS" <skyhi  2008-06-19 14:29:11 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 11:11:26 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 12:01:55 
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"Allen" <ha_  2008-06-19 16:35:57 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 12:19:18 
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Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-19 15:13:12 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-19 13:32:19 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 13:41:51 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 13:44:33 
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pappson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-19 14:01:30 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 15:30:14 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 18:02:11 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-19 20:38:42 

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