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Re: Mechanics of Elevator Trim. In Detail.

by Tina <tbaker27705@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 12, 2008 at 05:08 AM

>
> Yes, the time my son spent with canard aircraft brought out all sorts
> of interesting information about canards and the history of trying to
> scale up Rutan's original concept Beech Star****p.  The smaller true
> canards like the Long-eze are pretty good aircraft.  However there is
> a reason why we don't see large (six plus passenger) true canards.
> It's the relation****p between CG, fuel load, payload and range.
> Apparently in the scale up process there is a point where it is no
> longer practical.
>
> Ron Kelley

Would it not also be true that passive stability is not as im****tant
in larger modern airplanes? I would guess (again, I admit being
ignorant of the realities) that adding a 10% aerodynamically induced
increased load on bigger aircraft would be avoided for efficiency
reasons? It might be better to have enough fly by wire and computer
induced stability instead.  I don't know enough about this stuff to
even find the back of an envelope, let alone do a calculation there.
 




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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-07 22:08:12 
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WingFlaps <Moreflaps@[  2008-06-08 02:18:58 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-12 05:08:08 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-12 19:57:16 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-12 09:43:07 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-12 19:58:50 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-12 21:53:32 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 09:38:06 
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thor  2008-06-08 12:05:51 
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Michael Henry <michael  2008-06-09 12:17:24 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-08 09:07:16 
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Buster Hymen <BusterHy  2008-06-08 18:12:56 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 10:20:56 
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thor  2008-06-08 15:29:24 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-08 10:21:01 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 10:24:10 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 10:28:56 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 18:25:34 
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Rich Ahrens <rma@[EMAI  2008-06-08 16:16:26 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 21:25:06 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-08 13:01:34 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-08 14:01:00 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 21:06:28 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-08 14:22:12 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-08 21:24:26 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-08 14:39:18 
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Rich Ahrens <rma@[EMAI  2008-06-08 17:46:40 
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Marty Shapiro <News@[E  2008-06-09 00:14:50 
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terry <tfmann@[EMAIL P  2008-06-08 14:40:27 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-08 15:31:34 
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terry <tfmann@[EMAIL P  2008-06-08 15:52:02 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-08 16:03:16 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-08 16:06:07 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-08 18:25:18 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 20:54:52 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-09 04:21:25 
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Gezellig <geezellig@[E  2008-06-09 04:21:08 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 21:01:14 
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Andy Hawkins <andy@[EM  2008-06-09 08:26:19 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-08 22:24:07 
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Stealth Pilot <notrans  2008-06-09 21:21:34 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-09 14:15:39 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-08 22:34:29 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 07:25:00 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-09 16:34:41 
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"Maxwell" <l  2008-06-09 12:06:54 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 08:58:14 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 09:34:33 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-09 16:58:26 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-09 13:19:33 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 09:38:43 
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Andy Hawkins <andy@[EM  2008-06-10 08:28:34 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-09 10:07:47 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 11:06:10 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 11:07:43 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-10 09:16:17 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 11:31:33 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-10 09:13:43 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 11:36:02 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-09 15:30:56 
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More_Flaps <Moreflaps@  2008-06-09 12:20:19 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 14:27:04 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 16:19:29 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 20:18:42 
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"Maxwell" <l  2008-06-09 23:30:33 
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"BDS" <skyhi  2008-06-10 06:04:17 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-06-10 10:45:10 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 20:48:35 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-09 21:12:54 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-10 09:14:53 
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Bob Noel <ihatessppaam  2008-06-10 06:14:25 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2008-06-10 10:32:30 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-09 22:28:20 
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"Robert M. Gary"  2008-06-09 22:29:58 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-10 07:05:22 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-10 07:13:40 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-10 07:44:25 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-10 08:29:45 
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Tauno Voipio <tauno.vo  2008-06-10 17:09:16 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-10 10:22:27 
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Tauno Voipio <tauno.vo  2008-06-10 18:14:41 
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Gezellig <nokonihi@[EM  2008-06-11 18:15:34 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-13 11:02:35 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-13 21:23:06 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-22 01:12:51 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-10 11:24:39 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-10 21:45:27 
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Gezellig <nokonihi@[EM  2008-06-11 18:31:14 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-14 00:33:00 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-14 15:26:14 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-22 01:17:08 
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Tina <tbaker27705@[EMA  2008-06-11 03:28:05 
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Ron <ron@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-06-11 20:05:04 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-15 16:18:37 
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Bertie the Bunyip <AA@  2008-06-22 01:19:03 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-14 21:14:47 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-15 13:30:29 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-15 16:34:37 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-15 20:42:57 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-15 21:16:50 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-16 08:08:26 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-16 09:27:43 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-16 09:42:04 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-16 10:55:13 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-16 11:10:36 
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Michael Ash <mike@[EMA  2008-06-16 21:43:53 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-16 11:33:26 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-16 14:47:13 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-16 20:51:33 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-16 22:57:30 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-17 19:23:49 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-18 09:10:12 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-18 13:12:16 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-18 13:17:18 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-18 16:01:06 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-18 21:35:02 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-18 14:22:00 
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Gig 601Xl Builder <wrg  2008-06-18 16:46:41 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-18 18:56:57 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-18 21:37:35 
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jimp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-19 05:05:03 
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pappson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-19 06:26:20 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 07:40:55 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 09:14:18 
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"Allen" <ha_  2008-06-19 13:15:54 
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John Smith <jsmith@[EM  2008-06-20 18:28:16 
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pappson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-19 09:16:46 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 09:20:33 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-19 09:43:44 
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"BDS" <skyhi  2008-06-19 13:15:30 
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pappson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-19 10:42:50 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 11:01:39 
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"BDS" <skyhi  2008-06-19 14:29:11 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 11:11:26 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 12:01:55 
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"Allen" <ha_  2008-06-19 16:35:57 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 12:19:18 
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Jim Logajan <JamesL@[E  2008-06-19 15:13:12 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-19 13:32:19 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 13:41:51 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 13:44:33 
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pappson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-06-19 14:01:30 
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Le Chaud Lapin <jaibud  2008-06-19 15:30:14 
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Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-06-19 18:02:11 
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"Ken S. Tucker"  2008-06-19 20:38:42 

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