Re: Future of Electronics In Aviation

"Le Chaud Lapin" <jaibuduvin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> In rec.aviation.piloting Le Chaud Lapin <jaibudu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Jun 19, 1:05?pm, j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > In rec.aviation.piloting Le Chaud Lapin <jaibudu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > Hi All,
> > > > I have noticed that each time this subject is broached, there seem

> > > > to
> > > > be many who are perturbed by the idea of electronics/software 
> > > > assuming
> > > > a primary role (control, stabilization, etc.) in GA aircraft.
> > > > There are some who believe that electronics and software are
sorely
> > > > underutilized. ?The electronics that are used are mostly employed
in
> > > > an ancillary role, like providing data to a pilot, etc.
> > > > There are others who feel that electronics should be fundamentally
> > > > integral to the design of the aircraft from the start, meaning
that
> > > > any potential op****tunity for use of electronics should be
employed,
> > > > as it is almost always the case that digital version of a 
> > > > mechanical,
> > > > analog part is better on many axes, including weight, cost,
> > > > reliability, controllability, etc.
> > > > Ken Tucker mentioned a rotary wing aircraft for his project. ?I
have
> > > > not specified what type of propulsion mechanism I have in mind for

> > > > my
> > > > project. Both of us feel that electronic, fly-by-wire is the
future 
> > > > of
> > > > aviation.
> > > > What do you think?
> > > > 1. Do you think that current GA aircraft use not enough
electronics?
> > > > 2. Do you think that current GA aircraft use too much electronics?
> > > > 3. Do you think electronics should retain a peripheral role ? 
> > > > (Garmin,
> > > > etc) but not be used in control paths (fly-by-wire)?
> > > > 4. What role will electronics play in aicraft designed in the year
> > > > 2108?
> > > > 5. What will the aircraft look like in 2108?
> > > > 6. Any other thoughts...
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> > > 1. Real things cost real money.
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> > > 2. If some gizmo in an automobile goes tits up, you coast to the
side 
> > > of
> > > ? ?the road and call AAA. If some gizmo in an airplane goes tits up,
> > > ? ?the outcome probably won't be as benign.
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> > > 3. There's an old aerospace saying about certain people that goes 
> > > along
> > > ? ?the lines of "He always seems to be able to come up the the ten
> > > ? ?thousand dollar solution to the 98 cent problem".
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> > > 4. Have you seen a current production aircraft?
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> > > 5. Have you seen the price tag of a current production aircraft?
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> > > 6. Fly by wire was invented to solve the problems of huge control
> > > ? ?forces in big airplanes and instability in highly manueverable
> > > ? ?aircraft such as fighters. Neither problem exists in GA aircraft.
> > I must ask then, if one were to look at a typical GA aircraft, in the
> > year 2100, in your opinion, will it be as devoid of electro-mechanical
> > controls as it is today?
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> Since electro-mechanical adds cost, complexity, and weight with no
> advantage, what do you think?

I think the opposite.

> > What will it look like?
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> Like they do now.

I guess that's reasonable. It is conceivable that typical Cessna willl
look the same in 2108 as it does in 2008.

How about 2508?

By then it will be anti-gravity or we wont need to fly we will travel 
through the internet and there will be no planes.