On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:44:28 -0700, Du Haxen Hase
<whatzup.dok@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>In article <bvfck.2593$7%6.2551@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Pope Snarky Goodfella of the
>undulating cable, JM, CK, POEE, KOTHASK, DSOCPL, EOTHIDIAUTP, GGGHD,
>HCNB, MU, BCB, CPFWJ, CPFG, MWFA, CEM says...
>
>> Hail Eris! On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:08:40 -0700, "U Wascal Wabbit"
>> wisecracked:
>> > Stealth Pilot says...
>> >> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:08:39 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>> >> >Stealth Pilot wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:57:21 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>By the way, guys, all denizens of RAP and RAS are entitled to
vote in
>> >> >>>this. Well, except you Maxie.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Jsut follow the directions in the secretary's post. You can
either
>> >> >>>vote directly by answereng the above post in alt.usenet.kooks
alone
>> >> >>>or you can crosspost your vote back here. Your choice. You can't
use
>> >> >>>a nym though, it'll be disallowed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> you guys are drinking waaaaaayyyyyy too much coffee.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> you have me intrigued bertie. how do you transition from the
looperie
>> >> >> of some of these post wars to the mental discipline of flying
heavy
>> >> >> metal and back again?
>> >> >
>> >> >You don't know many pro pilots, do you?
>> >> >
>> >> >And I drink tea, and not all that much of it.. However, shortly it
will
>> >> >be copious amounts of beer with my crew..
>> >>
>> >> I feel like a bloody virgin (in many ways :-) ). I've been reading
and
>> >> stiring and contributing for over 10 years on usenet and I've never
>> >> encountered this troll stuff before. ever.
>> >>
>> >> are you guys just living in motel rooms bored ****less and doing
this
>> >> for a bit of idle stress/boredom relief or are you more like a bunch
of
>> >> modern day vikings doing a slash and burn on anything that takes
your
>> >> fancy behind the anonymity, or is there something else? I dont
>> >> understand the motivation.
>> >
>> > Stress relief without the hangover
>>
>> And ohhhhhh what a relief it is!
>>
>> >> what little I've been able to garner on trolling seems to indicate
an
>> >> entire creed of behaviour that I have yet to understand.
>> >>
>> >> is the karl malden nose group some clearing house for posts that are
a
>> >> little on the nose?
>> >
>> > The 'Nose's heyday was mebbe ten years ago. Most of the action now
is in
>> > AUK, with the flonk used for lighter, 'in-house' conversations. *g*
>>
>> It's still popular for x-poasting, though.
>>
>> >> as our famously disgraced redhead politician says "please explain?"
>> >
>> > Google 'Meow Wars'
>> >
>> > |\/| 3 0 \/\/ !!!1!
>>
>> And here's the FAQ for AUK.
>
>That's a classic.
>
>I've been know to poast this one for the education of the Great
>Unwashed:
>
> The Invasion FAQ of A.S.T.
>
>
>Although not exactly a FAQ, this file is more of an explanation of why
>alt.syntax.tactical and the tactical-list were created. It also lays
>down the foundation for the structure, strategy, and protocol of USENET
>invasions.
>
>
> * Invasion *
>
>Each of us brings our own reasons, backgrounds and motivations into
>this scheme. What is im****tant is that each individual brings into this
>their own brand of inspired mischief. In some ways it is completely
>innocent. In some ways it is completely destructive.
>
>Anyone can walk into alt.*** and post that ****ography should be
>banned. Anyone can walk into rec.s****t.baseball and say "baseball
>sucks". It takes unbelievable skill and discipline to cause a PROLONGED
>flame war. That is what we do. But it can only be done with talent, and
>numbers to match that talent. We only bring into the fold people who
>have the knack to use smarts to incite chaos, not stupidity to incite
>being ignored when people see a post and know what you're up to.
>
>To keep things running smoothly, Antebi is our 'moderator'. jpdavid was
>responsible for creating the mailing-list and setting up the initial
>newsgroup. Everyone is equal in suggesting and voting on invasion sites
>and other basic day-to-day workings of the group. Everyone here gains
>or loses merit only in the invasion arena.
>
>
> * Waves of Invasion *
>
>
>Flames and wars between groups are as old as Usenet. What we try to do
>is in many ways fundamentally different from what is or has been done
>in this area.
>
>After picking a site, we call for an invasion on that site. There are a
>number of phases to an invasion. Each person can volunteer for which
>wave they want to be in, but more times than not, it is a first come-
>first served policy. It is always im****tant that no one jump the gun
>and go in before we have time to prepare and bounce ideas off each
>other. It's also im****tant that people don't switch waves without
>letting everyone know. Flexibility is the key, as is communication.
>
>Typically, we use between two and five Waves of attack. Waves will
>generally break down into this kind of structure:
>
> a: Reconnaissance (RECON): These people will go in early and usually
>set up camp as "friends of the newsgroup". They will become trusted and
>participate by joining previous discussions or starting non-
>controversial ones themselves. They will also act as "double-agents" to
>counter-flame the other waves as the invasion progresses. They key is
>building a bit of credibility.
>
> b: Wave One: Wave one will usually be what starts the flame war.
>Those involved in this wave can go on and each have a different flame,
>or go on and flame in unison. They can bring in a subject of their own
>or flame a previous discussion. What matters is that this initial wave
>will be the one that the invaded newsgroup will have their attention
>on. This wave calls for extreme subtlety. The quality of the flame MUST
>be at its highest point here.
>
> c: Wave Two: Wave Two will consist of tactics to attack the people who
>were sent in as recon and attempt to start totally new flame threads.
>The key here is that even if we attack a group of people restrained
>enough to resist our flame-bait, wave two will stir things up and get
>others to join in.
>
> d: Wave Three: Wave three will generally change depending on the
>campaign, but will generally be added to push the confusion and chaos
>over the top. Flame the recon, flame the first wave, flame the second
>wave. These guys are our balls out, rude SOB's. Mop up and clean out.
>
>Sometimes (usually with bigger groups) Wave three will simply be along
>the lines of a wave two. We will call for a wave four (or five) to be
>the balls out routine. We will sometimes add a wave or two because
>depending on the size and intelligence of a newsgroup.
>
> Miscellaneous Tactics:
>
> There are three other things that we typically use, depending on
>the sophistication of the invasion.
>
>LOOSE CANNONS are people who come in and act so strange and obtuse that
>it makes the rest of the flames look genuine.
>
>THE ANON SERVICE can be used to send posts anonymously. This is a good
>way to post and pretend to be scared of retribution. Only problem is
>that this is usually the first sign that a post is a flame, so it
>should only be used with a TREMENDOUS amount of DISCRETION.
>
>CROSS POSTING is also a popular method of choice by other flame groups,
>so it is im****tant to Cross Post with discretion. If we can cross post
>to bring in other newsgroups to unwittingly assist us, perfect. If we
>cross post to suspicious newsgroups, our intentions will be obvious.
>
> * Victory *
>
>Ideally, signs of victory are the following:
>
>o Our names appear in killfiles
>o Majority or ALL threads in invaded newsgroup were started by us
>o Regulars/legit people abandon invaded newsgroup
>o Receive much hate mail - as does our SysAdmin
>o To be reprimanded by the glorious SysAdmin
>
> * Notes *
>
>Most im****tant is the need to be SUBTLE when it is required. One
>misplaced post can ruin it for the rest of us. Those of you who have
>participated in widespread flame wars know the feeling of having a
>newsgroup going for a long time, then someone posts an obvious flame or
>something so far out of context, that everyone says to just ignore the
>flames, which eventually includes all of us. Blowing a flame war will
>occasionally happen, but if it could have been avoided with a little
>thinking, then it's not as excusable.
>
>We've got to share duties. Everyone should get practice playing
>different roles and different waves.
>
>It has been assumed that if you don't want to participate, fine. No one
>will hold it against you. What is expected is that if you don't want to
>participate you don't have to, but that also means that you wont go
>warning that newsgroup when an invasion happens. You will close your
>eyes and turn a blind eye. NO NEWSGROUP IS OFF LIMITS!!!!!!
>
>Another thing many people seem to be talking about are SIGS AND NAMES.
>Try to take on appropriate names. If you are on alt.rap, D.J. Trouble
>is not going to stir things up...if you show up on soc.culture.physics
>with that name, you're caught before your first word of text. If a Sig
>is going to blow your cover, lose it.
>
>Official Kudos:
>
>- under construction -
oink.
--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "****head" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom
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