Re: Balanced vs Uncoordinated

On Sep 29, 9:03=A0am, Stealth Pilot <notranspon...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:30:24 -0700 (PDT), "Ol Shy & Bashful"
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> >On Sep 26, 3:25=A0pm, "Ol Shy & Bashful" <selway...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> More fun and disention. Balanced flight means the ball is centered on
> >> the turn and slip indicator. Some call it the turn coordinator, some
> >> call it the turn and bank. Ah whatever, we are talking about that
> >> little instrument with the happy face and the ball that slips from
> >> side to side.
> >> So, if you are in balanced flight, the ball should be centered. Every
> >> pilot should aspire to fly with that ball centered during all
> >> maneuvering unless the ball is not centered for a specific flight
> >> condition.
> >> Now then, does a ball out of center also mean uncoordinated?
> >> hmmmmmm
> >> Let the games begin
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> >The original question remains unanswered.
> >What is the difference in unbalanced and uncoordinated vs balanced and
> >coordinated? Can you have unbalanced and coordinated flight? Perhaps
> >this should be asked in a different forum but is intended to make
> >students ask their instructors. Very im****tatnt to understand the
> >difference.
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> no it's not!
> it is a little split hairs wanketty wank that is meant to illustrate
> some obscure little concept.
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> that all the pilots here fly quite well without being on to it says
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> I flew 7 hours this weekend carrying 10 or so passengers one after the
> other. thats about 1,400km and I have no idea what you're on about.
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> will understanding this improve my taildragger landings????? doubt it.
> ymmv
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Did something get lost in the message? If you do a lot of tailwheel
flying (apparently you do) you should have an idea of what balanced
flight is all about. I'm fairly certain you aren't landing with the
longitidual axis all askew with sloppy rudder control? Hmmm that may
mean the ball is centered in balanced flight. But then again, it might
mean you are landing with one wing down and holding your longitudinal
axis aligned with your direction of flight by using rudder and the
ball is off to one side as in unbalanced. And, if you are doing that,
I'm damned sure you are doing it with a high degree of coordination to
prevent a ground loop or other excusion on the runway? So, is that any
closer to understanding the difference in balanced vs unbalanced
flight, and the differences in coordinated vs uncoordinated flight?
By the way, the term "balanced flight" is one that I learned back in
the 50's in naval aviation.
Like you, (I'm presuming here) I've got a lot of tailwheel flying time
in a wide variety of aircraft in both single and twin engine aircraft.
Most of it is doing takeoff and landings rather than once every 2-3
hours.
As Dudley and others have pointed out, much of the recent discussions
seemed to have slipped into a quagmire of animosity and personal
attack rather than an exchange of information, techniques and
procedures.
I'm still adamant that 80% of the pilots flying today don't know how
to use their feet properly while flying aircraft and could care less
if the ball is centered or not. Is it any wonder they don't have any
idea why they have trouble in landings with a cross wind? Or how about
the ones who get into inadvertant spins and no clue how it happens?
And the undortunates who get into a spin while attempting to land and
get sloppy with rudder control causing them to become News At 9 and
all on board fatal?
Cheers
Ol S&B