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"Ol Shy & Bashful" <selwaykid@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Oct 3, 1:02 pm, Steve Hix <se...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > In article
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> > "Ol Shy & Bashful" <selway...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > What is the most dangerous time of any flight? On average, when
should
> > > a pilot be the most aware of what is going on? Gonna post this on
> > > student forum too. Should be most interesting.
> > > Ol SS aka Ol S&B (ol **** stirrer)
> >
> > At the risk of posting something close to being on topic...
> >
> > A couple weeks ago I attended a Air Safety Foundation seminar on
> > improving takeoffs and landings, mostly focusing on safety
> > considerations.
> >
> > According to them (and FAA and NTSB), most accidents occur close to
the
> > ground and low(er) speeds, with takeoff/go-around accidents being
> > slightly more like to be lethal than are landing accidents.
> >
> > Beyond that, I'd have to dig around in the information pile for more
> > detail.
>
> Steve
> I think you'll find the numbers relatively the same.
I've got (digging turns up some stuff, if not acorns in this case) some
of the information to hand now:
Accidents by Category (Takeoff&Landing-related)
Total% Fatal%
Takeoff/Initial Climb 22.6% 19.5%
Approach 8.9% 16.6%
Landing 35.4% 5.4%
Go-Around 2.6% 2.2%
Lethality Index
Takeoff/Initial Climb 17.1%
Approach 37.4%
Landing 3.0%
Go-Around 16.5%
There's more on the breakdown of causes, generally divided between
mechanical (about 75% of takeoff&initial climb accidents) and
pilot-related (about 85% of approach, landing and go-around accidents).
> However, if an
> accident occurs close to the ground, low and slow, does it really
> matter?
Depends on how slow, perhaps. :}
> I think the main problem is the pilot is not going to take off
> knowing something is wrong with the aricraft.
An argument for *good* pre-flight/runup procedures. And thinking ahead
of events in the cockpit, just in case.
> So, when something does
> go wrong on takeoff, the pilot is usually behind events and THAT is
> what makes it so dangerous.
Complacency kills, or at least tends to hurt a lot more.
> Already in flight and something goes
> wrong, you have some time to consider the problem and then deal with
> it. No matter what, landing or taking off, the ultimate outcome
> depends on the quality of the landing! The problems happen in the
> meantime and between time.
> What do you think? And I'm trying to keep this on a more serious note
> and thought provoking.
Personally, I'm trying to avoid developing any sort of complacent
attitude. Not to much of an issue, since I've only been back flying for
about 9 months after a 31-year layoff. Maintaining alertness, or at
least a proper attitude about learning and performing both could be
another issue.
Which is what I have to keep in mind.
But there are people with a *lot* more experience here to learn from.
(He says, going back to periscope depth...)
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