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Re: Which Ultralight to build.....

by "Montblack" <Y4_NOT!...4monty4blacky@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 5, 2007 at 02:07 PM

(fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote)
> OTOH if you have (or can get) a glider license with a self-launch
> endorsement then a motorglider may be a better choice than a FAR 103
> ultralight.


This is a hoot - AND A MUST READ!!!  <g>

http://edburkhead.com/Challenger/glider/motorglider1.htm
Experimental Glider? YES!!

> IIRC it also weighs more than 400 lbs, nowhere close to being
> a FAR 103 Ultralight.
>
> That's why he calls it a 'Motorglider', not an Ultralight.

As a 'Motorglider':
(ii) Maximum weight does not exceed 850 kg (1874 pounds);
and
(iii) The maximum weight to wing span squared (w/b2) does not exceed 3.0
kg/M2 (0.62 lb./ft.2).

500 lbs MTOW
and
28.5 ft wingspan = 812 (wing span squared)

500 lbs MTOW (/) 812 = 0.61576 lb./ft.2

....which does not exceed 0.62!

So yes, it is a motorglider

....IF the MTOW is 500 lbs
....or we go with longer wings
....or we follow the first link. <g>

http://www.usppa.org/Resources/FARs/part103_far.htm
(Part 103)

Home Depot Ultralight: aka "Motor Glider 101"
http://www.digitalmarketingusa.com/homedepotultralight.html


Specifications:

Empty Weight: 254 lbs
Stall Speed: 30 mph
Cruise Speed: 55 mph @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2600 rpm.
Fuel Capacity: 5 US Gallons.
Wing Span: 28' 6"
Gross Weight: Not established, however pilot flew prototype with 5 gallons
fuel, pilot weight 225 lbs.

Wing Chord: 5' 0"

Gross Wing Area: 142 1/2 sq. ft.
Dihedral: 3" from Fuselage to Wing Tip.


Tail Span: 6' 6"
LOA: 15' 8"

Height: 6' 0"
Wheel Track: 4' 10" - Center to Center

Maximum HP: Not Established

Prototype Power: (2) Te***seh 10hp 4 Stroke Engines or (2) 227 Rotax.

Endurance: (2) Techunesh engines consume approx. 1 gph.

Landing Speed: 35 mph.

Landing Rollout: 100'

Rate of Climb: Slow but steady with (2) 10 hp motors. Will maintain level
flight on one engine.


Bad Montblack, Bad!
Too much to do today to play anymore on the Groups  :-(
 




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Which Ultralight to build.....
"WC" <wc@[EM  2007-06-03 15:44:23 
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"Steve Ross" &l  2007-06-03 17:17:57 
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"WC" <wc@[EM  2007-06-03 18:00:36 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-04 00:54:49 
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"Steve Ross" &l  2007-06-03 21:52:04 
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"Steve Ross" &l  2007-06-03 21:54:17 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-04 03:34:09 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-04 03:50:07 
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"Russ and/or Martha   2007-06-04 00:29:09 
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dodger <rogeraford@[EM  2007-06-04 10:56:35 
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"patrick mitchel&quo  2007-06-04 07:34:44 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-04 13:17:24 
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Darrel Toepfer <spamba  2007-06-04 20:36:33 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-04 17:21:05 
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"WC" <wc@[EM  2007-06-05 21:25:05 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-05 09:36:28 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-05 14:07:18 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-05 18:30:30 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-05 18:24:53 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-05 19:40:11 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 08:29:36 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-06 08:33:54 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-06 11:08:21 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-05 18:41:16 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-06 00:25:07 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2007-06-15 20:38:43 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-15 21:43:45 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-15 21:59:14 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-15 23:38:19 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-15 23:56:22 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2007-06-17 18:58:56 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-06 10:10:33 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 12:11:04 
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"Vaughn Simon"   2007-06-06 21:19:29 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-06 16:56:50 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 16:01:32 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-06 18:08:01 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 19:57:16 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-06 22:22:24 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 21:28:26 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-06 20:08:50 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-07 10:19:18 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-07 11:51:08 
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gilan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-06-07 20:50:59 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-08 08:01:35 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-08 19:04:33 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-11 09:32:58 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-11 19:20:00 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-11 21:12:02 
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ChuckSlusarczyk <Chuck  2007-06-12 05:52:24 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-20 20:48:18 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-21 15:18:31 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-22 05:24:53 
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"WC" <wc@[EM  2007-06-13 21:08:02 
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"Bob Severance"  2007-06-11 10:27:26 
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dodger <rogeraford@[EM  2007-06-12 12:25:28 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-12 06:54:31 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-16 17:06:25 
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charles54456@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-06-20 19:56:02 

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