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Re: Which Ultralight to build.....

by "Wayne Paul" <wayne@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 6, 2007 at 09:28 PM

"Morgans" <jsmorgan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> "Wayne Paul" <> wrote
>
>> By the way, the mountain in the above link is 12,600 feet.  When flying

>> in this type of terrain I like to be as high as possible. (See: 
>> http://www.soaridaho.com/photogallery/Mackay/17900_MSL.jpg,

>> http://tinyurl.com/yu4oym
and http://tinyurl.com/2haboz)
 The valley 
>> floors in this part of  Idaho are between 6 and 7 thousand MSL.
>
> Beautiful, but foreboding, isn't it?
>
> Was this in the winter?  It suddenly occurred to me that these 
> "un-natural" flying machines have no engine, thus no heat, right?  It
must 
> get rather cold up there at nearly 18,000 feet, in the winter, with no 
> heat - or is there some fuel fired heat of some type?
>
> How cold have you seen it get in the cockpit, and how do you deal with
it 
> being that cold?  How about instruments; with that cold, do they
continue 
> to work well, or are there some tricks about that?

Jim,

These pictures were all taken during the first two weeks of August. 
(2003, 
2005 or 2006)

Yes it gets cold if you fly in the winter; however, personally I don't fly

between October and March.  The large canopy does provide quite a bit of 
solar heating which is enough for summer flying.  In the fall and spring I

dress like I would if I was going skiing. Heavy boots and socks. 
(sometimes 
I even ware electric warmed socks) ****rt, sweater, down coat, gloves, ski 
cap, etc.  Canopy frosting is a problem if the vents are closed, etc.  So 
far my 12 amp hr battery has not failed even when the cockpit was
sub-zero. 
To date I have not had a temperature related instrument/radio problem. 
Oxygen is our main concern.  Remember, the glider altitude record is a 
little over 50,000 MSL.

I am sure this discussion has diverged far from the ultra-lite/homebuilt 
charter.  However, I will be happy to answer further questions via email.

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/
 




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Which Ultralight to build.....
"WC" <wc@[EM  2007-06-03 15:44:23 
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"Steve Ross" &l  2007-06-03 17:17:57 
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"WC" <wc@[EM  2007-06-03 18:00:36 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-04 00:54:49 
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"Steve Ross" &l  2007-06-03 21:52:04 
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"Steve Ross" &l  2007-06-03 21:54:17 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-04 03:34:09 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-04 03:50:07 
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"Russ and/or Martha   2007-06-04 00:29:09 
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dodger <rogeraford@[EM  2007-06-04 10:56:35 
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"patrick mitchel&quo  2007-06-04 07:34:44 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-04 13:17:24 
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Darrel Toepfer <spamba  2007-06-04 20:36:33 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-04 17:21:05 
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"WC" <wc@[EM  2007-06-05 21:25:05 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-05 09:36:28 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-05 14:07:18 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-05 18:30:30 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-05 18:24:53 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-05 19:40:11 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 08:29:36 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-06 08:33:54 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-06 11:08:21 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-05 18:41:16 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-06 00:25:07 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2007-06-15 20:38:43 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-15 21:43:45 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-15 21:59:14 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-15 23:38:19 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-15 23:56:22 
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"Peter Dohm" &l  2007-06-17 18:58:56 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-06 10:10:33 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 12:11:04 
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"Vaughn Simon"   2007-06-06 21:19:29 
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"Montblack" <  2007-06-06 16:56:50 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 16:01:32 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-06 18:08:01 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 19:57:16 
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"Morgans" <j  2007-06-06 22:22:24 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-06 21:28:26 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-06 20:08:50 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-07 10:19:18 
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"Wayne Paul" &l  2007-06-07 11:51:08 
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gilan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-06-07 20:50:59 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-08 08:01:35 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-08 19:04:33 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-11 09:32:58 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-11 19:20:00 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-11 21:12:02 
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ChuckSlusarczyk <Chuck  2007-06-12 05:52:24 
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Richard Riley <Richard  2007-06-20 20:48:18 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-21 15:18:31 
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cavelamb himself <cave  2007-06-22 05:24:53 
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"WC" <wc@[EM  2007-06-13 21:08:02 
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"Bob Severance"  2007-06-11 10:27:26 
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dodger <rogeraford@[EM  2007-06-12 12:25:28 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-12 06:54:31 
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fredfighter@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-06-16 17:06:25 
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charles54456@[EMAIL PROTE  2007-06-20 19:56:02 

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