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Effectiveness of no-bypass aircraft ?

by JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 13, 2005 at 02:30 AM

Boeing is building the 787 with engines that will not output bypass air,
stating that this will offer great savings.

As a sanity check, will a bleedless aircraft really save that much money
overall ?

Once you add the extra generator torque needed, and all the weight of
the new systems that will use electricity instead of bleed air, will it
still represent a significant savings ?

Are the electrical stand-alone systems (such as cabin air compressors)
already available and known quantities (such as weight, and electrical
requirements), or are those still being developped ?

I assume that the starter motor will act as a generator once the engine
has started ? Or will the two be separate entities ?

Also, has there ever been consideration of having variable bleed air by
having a valve at/near the core so that when the aircraft is at cruise,
less bleed air would be "wasted" than when , of instance, aircraft is
descending through clouds and de-icing is needed ?



(P.S I tried posting this before, but post never showed up, so I am
sending this as an email to the sci=aeronautics=airliners @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 as email ).
 




 7 Posts in Topic:
Effectiveness of no-bypass aircraft ?
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam  2005-05-13 02:30:17 
Re: Effectiveness of no-bypass aircraft ?
westin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2005-05-13 08:09:50 
Re: Effectiveness of no-bypass aircraft ?
matt weber <mattheww50  2005-05-30 19:26:57 
Re: Effectiveness of no-bypass aircraft ?
newsREMOVE@[EMAIL PROTECT  2005-05-30 19:27:02 
Re: Effectiveness of no-bypass aircraft ?
"Paul Hovnanian P.E.  2005-05-30 19:27:08 
Re: Effectiveness of no-bypass aircraft ?
"Frank Jenkins"  2005-05-13 21:50:12 
Re: Effectiveness of no-bypass aircraft ?
peterwezeman@[EMAIL PROTE  2005-05-23 17:31:28 

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